Re: [dnsext] getting people to use new RRTYPEs

Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> Fri, 26 April 2013 04:11 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dnsext] getting people to use new RRTYPEs
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In message <20130426034321.68173.qmail@joyce.lan>, "John Levine" writes:
> >> 1. Insert the ability into the interface to add freeform stuff
> >> 2. Run the equivalent of named-checkzone prior to committing the change
> >> 3. Profit!
> 
> I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
> 
> No, this won't work with provisioning systems in the real world, that
> have to be usable by people who are not DNS weenies, and work in
> systems where the software upgrade cycle is months or years, not days.
> 
> There are real reasons that seven years after RFC 4408, most
> provisioning systems still don't handle type 99 records, and it's not
> because everyone who does e-mail is stupid.

It just money.  Really that is the only reason at this point.  They
won't spend a cent to make their systems updatable or they want to
charge extra for supporting type 99 records.

> No need to respond, you've made your point, although it may not be
> what you thought it was.

One can upgrade components of a system.  Nameservers are regularly
upgraded independently on the rest of the system.  Similarly
other tools are regularly upgraded.

> R's,
> John
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