Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notification for draft-sullivan-dns-class-useless-01.txt]
Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> Thu, 17 March 2016 20:33 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notification for draft-sullivan-dns-class-useless-01.txt]
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In message <20160317161708.GB3053@mx2.yitter.info>, Andrew Sullivan writes: > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 12:06:42AM -0400, Rob Austein wrote: > > > off, so we never did implement this in JEEVES or CHIVES. Symbolics > > may have gotten as far as using CH A RRs as one of the many inputs to > > their Namespace system, but that was pretty late in their corporate > > life cycle, so I doubt many users ever saw it in the wild. > > > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 08:03:44AM -0400, Rob Austein wrote: > > > other universities did pick up Hesiod, but I'd be astonished if there > > were any surviving instances today. > > These considerations, however, both again make me think it'd be ok to > deprecate classes formally and close the registry. > > Does anyone want to argue _against_ that direction? Otherwise, the > next version of the draft will propose that. (It's a much bigger > change, I think, and probably requires this WG to process the draft, > which is part of the reason I didn't try that before.) There is nothing stopping a second class working. Absolutely nothing. You just have to want to set up a parallel heirarchy which does not have to be complete or maintain a lot more top of namespaces. Hesiod worked for those institutions that decided to use it. They maintained their own top of namespace. They could have use the TXT record better but it worked. Just because we can't think of a good way to use class today is not a good reason to shut down the registry. It really doesn't cost to maintain a registry that is not being actively updated. Mark -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org
- [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version No… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Shane Kerr
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Mukund Sivaraman
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Rob Austein
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Shane Kerr
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Rob Austein
- Re: [DNSOP] the Chaosnet installed base Jim Reid
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] the Chaosnet installed base Rob Austein
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Shane Kerr
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… David Conrad
- Re: [DNSOP] why classes are useless, was New Vers… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] why classes are useless, was New Vers… Michael StJohns
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] why classes are useless, was New Vers… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] why classes are useless, was New Vers… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] why classes are useless, was New Vers… joel jaeggli