Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notification for draft-sullivan-dns-class-useless-01.txt]
Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> Thu, 17 March 2016 00:25 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notification for draft-sullivan-dns-class-useless-01.txt]
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In message <20160316235134.GI1994@mx2.yitter.info>, Andrew Sullivan writes: > On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 10:53:57PM -0000, John Levine wrote: > > >Since 1034 says that A in CH is "a domain name followed by a 16 bit > > >octal Chaos address," but 882 sais "it might have the phone number of > > >the host" (and gives the example > > > > > > +----------+--------+--------+----------------------------+ > > > |F.ISI.ARPA| A | CS | 213-822-2112 | > > > +----------+--------+--------+----------------------------+ > > > > Not to niggle on details, but that's CS as in CSNET, not CH as in > > Chaos, and the phone number was the number of the host's dialup modem. > > I'm apparently having a hard time reading this month :-/ But your > point makes the problem yet worse, since there's no sense that in the > CS net class here the RDATA of an A record is a host address. I > suppose that, since it's in 882 (which is obsoleted) that doesn't > matter. But in CH according to the definition it's not just a host > addressm but "a domain name followed by a 16 bit" address. (Maybe > that actually means that the domain name is not in the RDATA. Since > I'm having so much trouble reading this month, it's probably better > that I not form an opinion.) RFC 1034 has: Similarly we might see: XX.LCS.MIT.EDU. IN A 10.0.0.44 CH A MIT.EDU. 2420 Which breaks the rule of a zone being all of one class as the owner name here is clearly inherited. A may have been better subtyped but that is water under the bridge now. XX.LCS.MIT.EDU. IN A IN 10.0.0.44 IN A CH MIT.EDU. 2420 IN A IN6 2001:0DB8::2c Mark > Thanks for the correction. > > A > > -- > Andrew Sullivan > ajs@anvilwalrusden.com > > _______________________________________________ > DNSOP mailing list > DNSOP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org
- [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version No… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Shane Kerr
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Mukund Sivaraman
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Rob Austein
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Shane Kerr
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Rob Austein
- Re: [DNSOP] the Chaosnet installed base Jim Reid
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] the Chaosnet installed base Rob Austein
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Shane Kerr
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… David Conrad
- Re: [DNSOP] why classes are useless, was New Vers… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] why classes are useless, was New Vers… Michael StJohns
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] why classes are useless, was New Vers… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] why classes are useless, was New Vers… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] why classes are useless, was New Vers… joel jaeggli