Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notification for draft-sullivan-dns-class-useless-01.txt]
Shane Kerr <shane@time-travellers.org> Fri, 18 March 2016 13:54 UTC
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From: Shane Kerr <shane@time-travellers.org>
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Mark, At 2016-03-18 07:33:37 +1100 Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> wrote: > In message <20160317161708.GB3053@mx2.yitter.info>, Andrew Sullivan writes: > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 12:06:42AM -0400, Rob Austein wrote: > > > > > off, so we never did implement this in JEEVES or CHIVES. Symbolics > > > may have gotten as far as using CH A RRs as one of the many inputs to > > > their Namespace system, but that was pretty late in their corporate > > > life cycle, so I doubt many users ever saw it in the wild. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 08:03:44AM -0400, Rob Austein wrote: > > > > > other universities did pick up Hesiod, but I'd be astonished if there > > > were any surviving instances today. > > > > These considerations, however, both again make me think it'd be ok to > > deprecate classes formally and close the registry. > > > > Does anyone want to argue _against_ that direction? Otherwise, the > > next version of the draft will propose that. (It's a much bigger > > change, I think, and probably requires this WG to process the draft, > > which is part of the reason I didn't try that before.) > > There is nothing stopping a second class working. Absolutely > nothing. You just have to want to set up a parallel heirarchy which > does not have to be complete or maintain a lot more top of namespaces. > > Hesiod worked for those institutions that decided to use it. They > maintained their own top of namespace. They could have use the TXT > record better but it worked. > > Just because we can't think of a good way to use class today is not > a good reason to shut down the registry. It really doesn't cost > to maintain a registry that is not being actively updated. Closing the registry sends a clear message: don't use class. That matches the best understanding today. If someone thinks of a good way to use class tomorrow, the registry can be re-opened, right? Cheers, -- Shane
- [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version No… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Shane Kerr
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Mukund Sivaraman
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Rob Austein
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Shane Kerr
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Rob Austein
- Re: [DNSOP] the Chaosnet installed base Jim Reid
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] the Chaosnet installed base Rob Austein
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Shane Kerr
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… David Conrad
- Re: [DNSOP] why classes are useless, was New Vers… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] why classes are useless, was New Vers… Michael StJohns
- Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Versio… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] why classes are useless, was New Vers… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] why classes are useless, was New Vers… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] why classes are useless, was New Vers… joel jaeggli