Re: [DNSOP] Some distinctions and a request - Have some class?

Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> Fri, 03 July 2015 19:56 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Some distinctions and a request - Have some class?
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On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 2:11 PM, manning <bmanning@karoshi.com> wrote:
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> On 3July2015Friday, at 9:26, Suzanne Woolf <suzworldwide@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>
>> It does seem to me that an important feature here is that "TLD" as we're using it is "name in the root zone (or root zone space), to be managed within a context that assumes DNS protocol and semantics as well as DNS-compatible name space." (That is, people using the term "TLD" to refer to single-label DNS-compatible name are incorrect-- "onion" is not a TLD, and that's largely the point.)
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> CHAOS names are DNS-compatible. But they are not anchored in the root of the Internet class.
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> I guess my question here is, what would prevent House Finch Feathers OY from applying for the DNS(IN) string ONION from ICANN because they want that as a TLD in the IN class?


Nuttin' -- they can apply, but the expectation is that it wouldn't be granted.

The last new gTLD round "Draft Applicant Guidebook" contained:
2.2.1.2.1 Reserved Names All applied-for gTLD strings are compared
with the list of top-level Reserved Names to ensure that the
applied-for gTLD string does not appear on that list.

<and then a table, containing, amongst other things (including
'ICANN', 'IETF', 'IESG', 'RSSAC' and 'SSAC' (don't even get me
started..)) all of the single labels in the "Special Use Names"
registry and "*Note that in addition to the above strings, ICANN will
reserve translations of the terms “test” and “example” in multiple
languages. The remainder of the strings are reserved only in the form
included above.">


So, putting something on the SUN registry seems to make it not
eligible for being considered as string that can be applied for (at
least in this last round)

W



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> I will not be able to attend the DNSOPS WG since I arrive in Prague later in the week, but would appreciate being part of this ongoing discussion.
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