Re: [DNSOP] back to: Some distinctions and a request

the ^G registration was done prior to RFC 1123 being written.   

I think, this whole discussion (particularly Ed Lewis’s POV about wire formats v. readings from RFC 1034 suggest
reopening the can’o’worms that was/is the IDN debate and 8bit clean, native Unicode, etc.   

Regarding Andrew S. recognition that the horse has left the barn (.local, .onion, etc.)  there are two options open:
1) close the door before others escape and completely pollute the watershed,
2) throw in the towel and give up

manning
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On 2July2015Thursday, at 15:26, Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> wrote:

> 
> In message <D1BAFC60.CA8F%edward.lewis@icann.org>, Edward Lewis writes:
>> On 7/2/15, 13:34, "DNSOP on behalf of Paul Vixie" <dnsop-bounces@ietf.org
>> on behalf of paul@redbarn.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> manning wrote:
>>>> ... STRONGLY suggests that =E2=80=9Cdomain-looking-string=E2=80=9D is , in
>> fact, a
>>>> host that is identified using the Internet DNS.
>>> 
>>> i agree with this interpretation, which means, it's the spec itself
>>> that's wrong, not hugo's interpretation of it. the internet people
>>> didn't love .UUCP addresses either but that didn't stop them from working.
>>> 
>>> what the internet should be doing is defining escape mechanisms for
>>> non-internet systems, rather than saying "we are the only thing you can
>>> use".
>> 
>> At the risk of further annoying Andrews ... if there was a definition of
>> domain name in contexts external to the DNS, that would be helpful.  Plus,
>> in each context, what are the escape rules, if needed?
>> 
>> E.g., At one time, some "funny guy" tried to register ctrl-G as a TLD.
>> (He knows who he is.)  How would that be written in a URL?
> 
> In a domain name: \007 (RFC 1034 presentation encoding)
> In a host name: not possible as it is outside the allowable syntax.
> In a url it would depend upon the scheme.  It would not be valid for
> http:, https: or mailto: to start with as all three are restricted to
> using hostnames.  For those schemes where it is valid input %07.
> 
> Mark
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