Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last call for draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-error-reporting

Roy Arends <roy@dnss.ec> Tue, 20 June 2023 22:58 UTC

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From: Roy Arends <roy@dnss.ec>
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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 23:57:48 +0100
Cc: Willem Toorop <willem@nlnetlabs.nl>, Benno Overeinder <benno@nlnetlabs.nl>, DNSOP Working Group <dnsop@ietf.org>, DNSOP Chairs <dnsop-chairs@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last call for draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-error-reporting
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> On 20 Jun 2023, at 23:35, Dick Franks <rwfranks@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 at 22:20, Roy Arends <roy@dnss.ec> wrote:
>> 8
> 
>> 
>> The change was from -03 to -04 and discussed in the WG IIRC. The specific sentence your refer to was a lingering oversight in the changes from -03 to -04. I have consulted many developers on this, and so far I had no push back.
>> 
>>> explicitly querying the authoritative server for the appropriate
>>> report channel to a dependence on authoritatives attaching an
>>> (unsolicited) EDNS0 report channel option to each and every query.
>> 
>> No.
>> 
>> An authoritative server includes the option if configured to do so AND if it has the a non-null domain name configured as the reporting channel. It will then reply to each query. This is IMHO better than having a resolver include the option each and every time. Note that resolvers will ignore options that are unknown to them.
> 
> 6.2.  Authoritative server specification
> Contains not a shred of normative language saying any of that.
> 
> The preliminary waffle in the overview could apply to either the
> solicited or unsolicited regime.
> 
>>> I withdraw my earlier statement that the document is almost ready.
>>> Now, clearly it is not.
>> 
>> I hear you. I do not agree though, and I hope you reconsider
> Not without further work

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Roy