Re: [DNSOP] Minimum viable ANAME

Ray Bellis <ray@bellis.me.uk> Sun, 23 September 2018 14:40 UTC

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On 21/09/2018 19:11, JW wrote:

> I also feel from this discussion, we are all roughly on the same page. 
> We want SRV as the long term solution ...

except that we heard at the side meeting in Montreal (albeit from
browser people rather than content people) that they *don't* want SRV,
because it has fields that are not compatible with the web security model.

I still want to define a new RR that does have mutually agreed semantics
that's specifically for use by HTTP(s), but so far no takers.

Ray