Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-problem-01
Robert Edmonds <edmonds@mycre.ws> Sat, 02 April 2016 20:11 UTC
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From: Robert Edmonds <edmonds@mycre.ws>
To: Adrien de Croy <adrien@qbik.com>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-problem-01
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You are complaining about the following text: In [RFC2826] the IAB noted that "To remain a global network, the Internet requires the existence of a globally unique public name space. The DNS name space is a hierarchical name space derived from a single, globally unique root." Abley, et al. Expires September 9, 2016 [Page 7] Internet-Draft Top-Level/Special-Use Domain Names March 2016 "Maintaining a globally-unique public namespace that supports different name resolution protocols is hence an architectural requirement, and some facility for reservation of top-level domains in the DNS is necessary." If [...] >From the context it would appear the second paragraph surrounded by double-quotes is actually part of the main text of the document and not a quote. Note the indentation in the markup: https://github.com/ableyjoe/draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-problem/blob/bd566c665630c96b415ed28caec48f27267d57c9/draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-problem.xml#L342-L354 Probably there is a missing <t> at the beginning of line 351. Adrien de Croy wrote: > sorry, that second reference should have also been RFC 2826 > > neither the word "Maintaining" nor "architectural" are present in 2826 > according to the search function in Chrome. > > Adrien > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Adrien de Croy" <adrien@qbik.com> > To: "Paul Hoffman" <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org>; "dnsop@ietf.org" > <dnsop@ietf.org> > Sent: 1/04/2016 9:25:07 a.m. > Subject: Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-problem-01 > > > > > > >------ Original Message ------ > >From: "Paul Hoffman" <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> > >To: "dnsop@ietf.org" <dnsop@ietf.org> > >Cc: "adrien@qbik.com" <adrien@qbik.com> > >Sent: 1/04/2016 12:31:53 a.m. > >Subject: Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-problem-01 > > > >>On 30 Mar 2016, at 18:49, John Levine wrote: > >> > >>>Isn't it a little late to be refighting this argument? > >> > >>+1. > > > >I guess now we have some hindsight maybe we could learn from the > >experiences with .onion and maybe look differently at a proposal for .alt. > > > > > >> > >>Folks: this thread is about a specific document, not every other thing > >>we have discussed before now. If you want to rediscuss (as I sometimes > >>do), please at least reference in the document where your argument fits. > >>That way, the document authors can maybe amend the document if there is > >>consensus to do so. > >Well I would start with what is presented as a quote from RFC 2826 which > >isn't actually in RFC 2686 and which seems to be the basis for a claim of > >even doing a special use names registry at all. > > > >In Section 4. Architectural considerations > > > >"Maintaining a globally-unique public namespace that supports different > >name resolution protocols is hence an architectural requirement..." > > > >Adrien > > > > > >> > >>--Paul Hoffman > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>DNSOP mailing list > >>DNSOP@ietf.org > >>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop > > > >_______________________________________________ > >DNSOP mailing list > >DNSOP@ietf.org > >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop > > _______________________________________________ > DNSOP mailing list > DNSOP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop -- Robert Edmonds
- [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-problem-… Alain Durand
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Bob Harold
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Ralph Droms
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… David Conrad
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Ralph Droms
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Alain Durand
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Ralph Droms
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… David Conrad
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… David Conrad
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Alain Durand
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Ralph Droms
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Adrien de Croy
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Suzanne Woolf
- [DNSOP] The right alt string (was Re: draft-adpkj… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Alain Durand
- Re: [DNSOP] The right alt string (was Re: draft-a… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] The right alt string (was Re: draft-a… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… David Conrad
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… David Conrad
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Alain Durand
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Ralph Droms
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Alain Durand
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… John R Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Alain Durand
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… David Conrad
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… David Conrad
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… joel jaeggli
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… David Conrad
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… joel jaeggli
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… John R Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Jim Reid
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Philip Homburg
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Alain Durand
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… John R Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Philip Homburg
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Adrien de Croy
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Adrien de Croy
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Adrien de Croy
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… John R Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Adrien de Croy
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Adrien de Croy
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Philip Homburg
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… David Conrad
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Adrien de Croy
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Ralph Droms
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… David Conrad
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Adrien de Croy
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Adrien de Croy
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… str4d
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… str4d
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… joel jaeggli
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Robert Edmonds
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Adrien de Croy
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-adpkja-dnsop-special-names-prob… Adrien de Croy