Re: [DNSOP] raising the bar: requiring implementations

Frederico A C Neves <fneves@registro.br> Wed, 28 March 2018 19:28 UTC

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From: Frederico A C Neves <fneves@registro.br>
To: bert hubert <bert.hubert@powerdns.com>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] raising the bar: requiring implementations
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Bert,

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 05:24:33PM +0200, bert hubert wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 08:49:39PM +0530, Mukund Sivaraman wrote:
> > I'd raise the bar even higher, to see complete implementation in a major
> > open source DNS implementation when it applies. Sometimes implementation
> > problems are very revealing (client-subnet should have gone through
> > this).
> 
> Well to allow the one remaining closed source DNS implementation some room,
> I think we could live with a 'demo' from them if they'd want to. This would
> lead to an implementation report, much like is customary in the BGP WGs.
> 
> But otherwise, +100. 
> 
> This might go for MIXFR which we are discussing now btw.  It looks nice in
> theory, but I wonder about the practice, and if the people who want this
> (TLD operators I guess) would be willing to test it in simulated production
> to see if it fits their needs.

We'll definitely test this on real data with open-source clients and
with our own server implementation.

> 
> 	Bert
> 

Fred