Re: [DNSOP] CDS and/or CDNSKEY

Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> Tue, 08 October 2013 22:31 UTC

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On Oct 8, 2013, at 1:10 PM, Doug Barton <dougb@dougbarton.us> wrote:

>> That is the opposite of the feeling that I got from the DNSOP meeting in Berlin.
> 
> ... and yet, there is a larger world outside the select few able to attend the meetings. :)  One could even reasonably argue that the opinion of those who do attend the meetings is of questionable statistical validity due to volunteer bias.

If your view is that the only way to write a standard is after you have heard from a majority of everyone who would be affected by it, that's fine, but it is not the model that is used standards bodies like the IETF.

--Paul Hoffman