Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: Requirements for Management of Name Servers for the DNS

TSG <tglassey@earthlink.net> Thu, 19 March 2009 13:45 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: Requirements for Management of Name Servers for the DNS
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Ralf Weber wrote:
> Moin!
>
> On 18.03.2009, at 17:37, TSG wrote:
>
>> Peter Koch wrote:
>>> Dear WG,
>>>
>>> this is to initiate a working group last call on
>>>
>>>        "Requirements for Management of Name Servers for the DNS"
>>>        draft-ietf-dnsop-name-server-management-reqs-02.txt
>>>
>> Peter - I notice that the standards don't say anything about the EU's 
>> Data Integrity Directive which in fact will effect the operations of 
>> all public content systems including the DNS servers which are 
>> operated in the EU. Why was this never designed into the spec is 
>> interesting since the specification may "by law not be used in about 
>> 1/3 of the populated world now" without that consideration being in 
>> place.
> I'm not sure where you get the numbers, but the EU's population is 
> around 499 million, the worlds population is 6700 million, to me that 
> makes roughly 8%. Also every EU directive has to be set into law by 
> the member states, and in that case at least in the federal system of 
> germany and austria this had to be done by the states. So the rough 
> count I had this directive has been passed into 46 different laws, of 
> course in different languages. Are you going to check them all?
>
> Of course operators in the respective legislations are required to 
> obey to the law, and working for an pan european ISP I can tell you 
> that this is not easy sometimes, because law differs from country to 
> country, but we still provide services based on the standards set bey 
> the IETF. These have to be technically sound but IMHO it is not the 
> task of this working group to see if they, or to be more precise 
> implementation of these standards may impose legal risks in certain 
> countries.
>
> I know the implementation of this directive in germany 
> (Bundes/Landesdatenschutzgesetz for the germans around here) and I can 
> not see how it would apply to this draft, then of course IANAL.
Ralf - where I got that number is based on the populated areas of the 
planet. That said, the EU based on Europe and Canada & Australia 
(including India's population + the EU) falls somewhere roughly from 1/3 
to 1/2 of the global population
>
> So long
> -Ralf
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