Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: Requirements for Management of Name Servers for the DNS
TSG <tglassey@earthlink.net> Thu, 19 March 2009 13:45 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] WGLC: Requirements for Management of Name Servers for the DNS
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Ralf Weber wrote: > Moin! > > On 18.03.2009, at 17:37, TSG wrote: > >> Peter Koch wrote: >>> Dear WG, >>> >>> this is to initiate a working group last call on >>> >>> "Requirements for Management of Name Servers for the DNS" >>> draft-ietf-dnsop-name-server-management-reqs-02.txt >>> >> Peter - I notice that the standards don't say anything about the EU's >> Data Integrity Directive which in fact will effect the operations of >> all public content systems including the DNS servers which are >> operated in the EU. Why was this never designed into the spec is >> interesting since the specification may "by law not be used in about >> 1/3 of the populated world now" without that consideration being in >> place. > I'm not sure where you get the numbers, but the EU's population is > around 499 million, the worlds population is 6700 million, to me that > makes roughly 8%. Also every EU directive has to be set into law by > the member states, and in that case at least in the federal system of > germany and austria this had to be done by the states. So the rough > count I had this directive has been passed into 46 different laws, of > course in different languages. Are you going to check them all? > > Of course operators in the respective legislations are required to > obey to the law, and working for an pan european ISP I can tell you > that this is not easy sometimes, because law differs from country to > country, but we still provide services based on the standards set bey > the IETF. These have to be technically sound but IMHO it is not the > task of this working group to see if they, or to be more precise > implementation of these standards may impose legal risks in certain > countries. > > I know the implementation of this directive in germany > (Bundes/Landesdatenschutzgesetz for the germans around here) and I can > not see how it would apply to this draft, then of course IANAL. Ralf - where I got that number is based on the populated areas of the planet. That said, the EU based on Europe and Canada & Australia (including India's population + the EU) falls somewhere roughly from 1/3 to 1/2 of the global population > > So long > -Ralf > --- > Ralf Weber > Platform Infrastructure Manager > Colt Telecom GmbH > Herriotstrasse 4 > 60528 Frankfurt > Germany > DDI: +49 (0)69 56606 2780 Internal OneDial: 8 491 2780 > Fax: +49 (0)69 56606 6280 > Email: rw@colt.net > http://www.colt.net/ > Data | Voice | Managed Services > > Schütze Deine Umwelt | Erst denken, dann drucken > > ***************************************** > COLT Telecom GmbH, Herriotstraße 4, 60528 Frankfurt/Main, Deutschland > * Tel +49 (0)69 56606 0 * Fax +49 (0)69 56606 2222 * > > Geschäftsführer: Dr. Jürgen Hernichel (Vors.), Rita Thies * > Amtsgericht Frankfurt/Main HRB 46123 * USt.-IdNr. DE 197 498 400 > > > > > >
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