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Re: [DNSOP] dns interface to whois? (Re: Taking Back the DNS )

David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org> Sun, 21 November 2010 21:43 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] dns interface to whois? (Re: Taking Back the DNS )
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On Nov 21, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
> No, iris has not been widely deployed.

The only folks I'm aware of who have deployed IRIS are DENIC and they only deployed DCHK.

> My point is that if there were some reason to have this data available in a convenient machine readable format, then iris would already be deployed.

Unless the idea of deploying a new, untested, and quite heavyweight solution discouraged people from actually doing so.

> That there's no uptake seems to me to be an indication that registries don't want additional costs.

Always true. 

> So they won't sign up to expand their dns operation costs for these purposes either. 

They would if it allows them to reduce costs.  I'm told that the query load on whois servers is non-trivial even today.  And then there is the fact that whois doesn't really deal very well with internationalization...

Regards,
-drc

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