Re: [DNSOP] The Larger Discussion on Differences in Response Drafts

Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at> Thu, 25 August 2016 12:33 UTC

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From: Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] The Larger Discussion on Differences in Response Drafts
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Matthew Pounsett <matt@conundrum.com> wrote:
>
> Also take for example the transition from not having HTTP SRV to having
> it.  One of the arguments against from the browser developer community is
> the additional round trips.  One of those extra round trips is the need to
> request both the A/AAAA of the requested host and the _http._tcp.<apex> SRV
> record in separate queries, not knowing if the latter even exists.

A client can query for A AAAA and SRV concurrently. The extra latency is
due to the followup SRV target address queries and the higher rate of SRV
lookup failures.

Tony.
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