Re: [dtn-interest] FW: Results of IETF-conflict review for draft-irtf-dtnrg-tcp-clayer-08
Arjuna Sathiaseelan <arjuna.sathiaseelan@cl.cam.ac.uk> Tue, 25 February 2014 13:58 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dtn-interest] FW: Results of IETF-conflict review for draft-irtf-dtnrg-tcp-clayer-08
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Not sure whether this is operational - but some nice work by the folks from Telefonica on time-shifting bulk transfers using DTN during offpeak hours to transmit data at very minimal cost : Delay Tolerant Bulk Data Transfers on the Internet http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?doid=1555349.1555376 Arjuna On 25 February 2014 13:55, Ivancic, William D. (GRC-RHN0) <william.d.ivancic@nasa.gov> wrote: > Are there any known "Operational" deployments of DTN? I no NASA is > investigating DTN, be we still do not have what I would call an Operational > deployment. > > Also, LTE is a connected network. How would DTN help here? Dropbox and > email work pretty well in this situation as does text messaging and even > voice conversations (with voice mail when disconnected). > > Note, to the best of my knowledge, there was no high-rate DTN deployed on > the Lunar Laser Communication Demonstration (LLCD). Rather, DTN was sent > over the link from one ground DTN agent to another. I'm not sure at what > rate. > > http://www.nasa.gov/content/disruption-tolerant-networking-experiments-with-optical-communications/#.UwyepiQmXAY > > Will > ****************************** > William D. Ivancic > Phone 216-433-3494 > Fax 216-433-8705 > Networking Lab 216-433-2620 > Mobile 440-503-4892 > http://roland.grc.nasa.gov/~ivancic > > > From: Vint Cerf <vint@google.com> > Date: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 4:43 AM > To: "l.wood@surrey.ac.uk" <l.wood@surrey.ac.uk> > Cc: dtn-interest <dtn-interest@irtf.org> > > Subject: Re: [dtn-interest] FW: Results of IETF-conflict review for > draft-irtf-dtnrg-tcp-clayer-08 > > there is a lot more TCP and IP network readily available than others so, > statistically, this is not a surprise. I anticipate that LTE may prove > another supporting environment. Of course, there continues to be work in > deep space such as the latest laser comm tests to/from the moon at 600 Mb/s. > > vint > > > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 4:27 AM, <l.wood@surrey.ac.uk> wrote: >> >> Vint, >> >> the impression I've gained is that most bundle protocol use is over TCP - >> that is, >> rather than being a compatibility mechanism, TCP is the dominant transport >> for the >> bundle protocol. >> >> Are there any statistics or metrics of use that can shed light here? >> >> thanks >> >> Lloyd Wood >> http://about.me/lloydwood >> ________________________________________ >> From: Vint Cerf [vint@google.com] >> Sent: 25 February 2014 08:51 >> To: Wood L Dr (Electronic Eng) >> Cc: dtn-interest >> Subject: Re: [dtn-interest] FW: Results of IETF-conflict review for >> draft-irtf-dtnrg-tcp-clayer-08 >> >> Lloyd, >> This makes it possible to support applications end to end over DTN >> including the Internet. >> It is a compatibility mechanism. >> >> vint >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 3:23 AM, >> <l.wood@surrey.ac.uk<mailto:l.wood@surrey.ac.uk>> wrote: >> Congratulations to DTNRG on reaching the below milestone in getting >> this draft well on the way to being published. >> >> It's been a long delay since draft-demmer-dtnrg-tcp-clayer-00.txt in >> October >> 2006, but defining how the bundle protocol is carried over TCP will go a >> long >> way to improving support for networked communications under the very >> difficult disrupted and delay-tolerant network conditions when TCP >> break... >> um. Ah. >> >> Lloyd Wood >> http://about.me/lloydwood >> ________________________________________ >> From: IETF-Announce >> [ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org>] On >> Behalf Of The IESG [iesg-secretary@ietf.org<mailto:iesg-secretary@ietf.org>] >> Sent: 24 February 2014 17:40 >> To: Lars Eggert; >> draft-irtf-dtnrg-tcp-clayer@tools.ietf.org<mailto:draft-irtf-dtnrg-tcp-clayer@tools.ietf.org>; >> jo@netlab.tkk.fi<mailto:jo@netlab.tkk.fi> >> Cc: iana@iana.org<mailto:iana@iana.org>; The IESG; >> ietf-announce@ietf.org<mailto:ietf-announce@ietf.org> >> Subject: Results of IETF-conflict review for >> draft-irtf-dtnrg-tcp-clayer-08 >> >> The IESG has completed a review of draft-irtf-dtnrg-tcp-clayer-08 >> consistent with RFC5742. >> >> >> The IESG has no problem with the publication of 'Delay Tolerant >> Networking TCP Convergence Layer Protocol' >> <draft-irtf-dtnrg-tcp-clayer-08.txt> as an Experimental RFC. >> >> >> The IESG has concluded that there is no conflict between this document >> and IETF work. >> >> >> >> The IESG would also like the IRTF to review the comments in the >> datatracker related to this document and determine whether or not they >> merit incorporation into the document. Comments may exist in both the >> ballot and the history log. >> >> The IESG review is documented at: >> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/conflict-review-irtf-dtnrg-tcp-clayer/ >> >> A URL of the reviewed Internet Draft is: >> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-dtnrg-tcp-clayer/ >> >> The process for such documents is described in RFC 5743 >> >> Thank you, >> >> The IESG Secretary >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dtn-interest mailing list >> dtn-interest@irtf.org<mailto:dtn-interest@irtf.org> >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/dtn-interest >> > > > _______________________________________________ > dtn-interest mailing list > dtn-interest@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/dtn-interest > -- Arjuna Sathiaseelan | http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~as2330/
- [dtn-interest] FW: Results of IETF-conflict revie… l.wood
- Re: [dtn-interest] FW: Results of IETF-conflict r… Vint Cerf
- Re: [dtn-interest] FW: Results of IETF-conflict r… l.wood
- Re: [dtn-interest] FW: Results of IETF-conflict r… Vint Cerf
- Re: [dtn-interest] FW: Results of IETF-conflict r… Caini Carlo
- Re: [dtn-interest] FW: Results of IETF-conflict r… l.wood
- Re: [dtn-interest] FW: Results of IETF-conflict r… Ivancic, William D. (GRC-RHN0)
- Re: [dtn-interest] FW: Results of IETF-conflict r… Arjuna Sathiaseelan
- Re: [dtn-interest] FW: Results of IETF-conflict r… Arjuna Sathiaseelan
- Re: [dtn-interest] FW: Results of IETF-conflict r… Ivancic, William D. (GRC-RHN0)
- Re: [dtn-interest] FW: Results of IETF-conflict r… Burleigh, Scott C (312G)