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"DALY, BRIAN K (ATTCINW)" <BD2985@att.com> Thu, 25 March 2010 23:47 UTC
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Keith - We agree with you, and to further the point, in wireless cellular IP networks a point to point solution would be problematic. Cell Broadcast is used for CMAS because SMS cannot be used for any real time alerting - it was not designed for that application and has serious limitations, as the FCC CMSAAC studied. When it comes to the evolved packet core and IMS, again a point to point solution will cause significant congestion on the network and a broadcast/multicast solution must be used to effectively deliver alert messages. Thus things like location and "priority" are already handled in the delivery network. ATIS and 3GPP will be studying how to support multimedia alerts in the future, as recommended by the FCC CMSAAC. This is all beyond the scope of this work effort. Regards, Brian Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 03:13:24 +0100 From: "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" <keith.drage@alcatel-lucent.com> Subject: Re: [earlywarning] Updated Charter Text for ATOCA To: Hannes Tschofenig <Hannes.Tschofenig@gmx.net>, "earlywarning@ietf.org" <earlywarning@ietf.org> Message-ID: <EDC0A1AE77C57744B664A310A0B23AE20D1639BB@FRMRSSXCHMBSC3.dc-m.alcatel-lu cent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" What I am not seeing here is any separation of the problem from the one that cell broadcast attempts to solve. Fundamentally, cell broadcast, as exists on all GSM, UTRAN and E-UTRAN based cell phones and is being used for Tsunami warning and Public Warning, exists and is not going to substantially change. The major limitation here is is length of message, and what does get transmitted will be very much dependent on that restriction. Moreover I have heard from a number of governmental bodies that they are happy with that situation and are not envisaging further standardisation in that area outside of 3GPP. So my view at the moment is that there is no point in IETF trying to address the scope of what is already specified in cell broadcast (from base station to end mobile). regards Keith
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- Re: [earlywarning] (no subject) DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
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- Re: [earlywarning] (no subject) DALY, BRIAN K (ATTCINW)
- Re: [earlywarning] (no subject) SENNETT, DEWAYNE A (ATTCINW)
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