Re: [edu-team] IETF 99 Tutorial Survey Results

[Michael StJohns <[e-mail]>]

Folks - I was serious about 5 minutes and two slides.  These *really* 
need to be bare bones and ideally updated at least every three (one?) 
years (each AD entering their third (second?) year must provide one).  
Any longer and we move from brief intro into boring bloviation.  :-)   
Also any longer and you can't actually get anyone to spend the time 
doing it.

Alternately, we hire professionals... but I don't think I'm ready for 
the IETF to have a marketing organization quite yet.

Mike



On 8/24/2017 3:36 AM, Mirjam Kuehne wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I always liked the idea of producing short videos for each area (and
> possibly each WG). I remember Kathleen did one for one of the security
> WGs some years ago that was also well received.
>
> They don't need to read out the charter, but could give a high-level
> overview of the main goal and topics (pretty much what Alexa suggested
> below). It would also give some "life" to the many names at the IETF
> (yes, there are photos of WG chairs, but a video is still a bit more
> lively).
>
> And yes, maybe they need to be updated from time to time, but that
> should be doable (if we get the ADs and WG chairs to see the usefulness
> of such short intro videos).
>
> Mirjam
>
> On 24/08/2017 01:07, Alexa Morris wrote:
>> Fred,
>>
>>> On Aug 23, 2017, at 3:11 PM, Fred Baker <[e-mail]
>>> <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Aug 23, 2017, at 1:30 PM, Alexa Morris <[e-mail]
>>>> <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>>>> I'm not sure how to do a brief overview of 120+ working groups.
>>>>> Probably not.   Maybe a better idea is to do another session with
>>>>> one AD from each area doing a 5 minute 2 slide brief - the IETF
>>>>> Newsreel of current topics.  It doesn't actually have to be an AD,
>>>>> but should be someone familiar with the area.  Get each AD to do a
>>>>> slide covering their owned WGs and topics.
>>>> We’ve talked — many times — about having brief online introduction
>>>> videos for various technical topics and/or working groups. If we had
>>>> something like that for each working group, you could make a simple
>>>> statement pointing people to videos available in the Datracker, or
>>>> some such. Online videos will reach more people than any in-person
>>>> tutorial is likely to, and can be viewed anytime.
>>>>
>>>> We would need to develop a template for the video format, and
>>>> strictly limit the time as well. If people like this idea I have some
>>>> notions on how to do this and can pursue it further.
>>> I'm OK with the idea of an introductory video. I get uncomfortable if
>>> I think it needs to be updated more frequently than the charter, and I
>>> wonder why the charter isn't adequate to the purpose. I suspect the
>>> difference between "the charter" and "a video about the charter" is
>>> data format. Speaking as a working group chair, what would you want
>>> the chair to say that isn't already in the charter?
>> Good questions, and this idea clearly needs to be further developed.  I
>> wasn’t actually thinking that the video would be a repeat of the
>> charter; I was thinking it would serve a different purpose. For example,
>> see this video that Cullen did in 2015, while onsite at an IETF meeting,
>> to talk about WebRTC and the RTCWEB working
>> group: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1llPCXmxGak. Note: I had nothing
>> to do with the production of this video, but I remember thinking it was
>> a great idea. And it’s at almost 7,050 views, which is considerably
>> higher than most IETF videos (which are generally just recordings of a
>> presentation designed for and presented to a live audience).  If you
>> look in the WebRTC video description you will see:
>>
>> "What is WebRTC all about? Why are people so excited about this
>> activity? What work is the IETF doing within the RTCWEB working group?
>> Where is this all going? How can people get involved?”
>>
>> I think that working group videos would address the “Where is this
>> working group going? Why should I care/what does this mean? How can I
>> get involved?" sort of questions.
>>
>> Alexa
>>
>>
>>> A thought - we have a rogue's gallery of WG chair photos. We could
>>> include the video in that, or duplicate the photos and video with the
>>> charter.
>>>
>>> I'd like you to share your ideas. I'm pretty sure I'm not tracking...
>>
>>
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