Re: [edu-team] IETF 99 Tutorial Survey Results

Michael StJohns <mstjohns@comcast.net> Wed, 23 August 2017 17:22 UTC

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On 8/22/2017 4:27 PM, Alexa Morris wrote:
> Edu Team and IETF 99 Tutorial Presenters,
>
> Below please find links to the complete results from the IETF 99 tutorial surveys. Some respondents took the time to provide comments on how the tutorial might be improved and I’ve included those comments here so that we make sure to review them.
>
> 1. Newcomers Orientation
> -   16 respondents
> -    Online results: https://www.surveymonkey.com/results/SM-TGBYL9T6/
> -    Ideas for improvements:
> 	*  Should also give a brief overview of the various subjects that IETF are currently covering.
I'm not sure how to do a brief overview of 120+ working groups. Probably 
not.   Maybe a better idea is to do another session with one AD from 
each area doing a 5 minute 2 slide brief - the IETF Newsreel of current 
topics.  It doesn't actually have to be an AD, but should be someone 
familiar with the area.  Get each AD to do a slide covering their owned 
WGs and topics.

> 	* Though IETF is not a "hierarchical" organization a diagram over the organization with areas, area-directors, working groups, wg-chairs, etc would be usefull to illustrate the width of the organization. Maybe also hand out some leaflet detailing the areas and briefly the working groups to give an overview of the tremendous amount of work that is being done in a wide variety of fields.
See my other email.
> 	*  I didn't know what to expect of some events, e.g. Bits and Bytes. Maybe in this tutorial you can promote hackathon activities, it could be useful even though this happens before, this could encourage someone to participate in hackathon in posterior meetings
I'll expand a little bit on this when talking.  I did realize I glossed 
over the non-organizational organized events more in this last session.
> 	* Add a kind of organigram, explaining/showing the ADs and other parties of the IETF.
> 	* The what-to-do-if-harassed coverage didn't make me feel very reassured. It would help to have a clear pointer other than "look for someone with this color of tiny dot". Also the xmpp.net/directory.php link is broken.

I've already chatted with Pete Resnick and invited him to stand up 
during the next session.  It also helps that they are now wearing a 
garish badge tag that I can add a picture of to the presentation. Still, 
given 1200 attendees and 3 Ombuds I think "Ask someone with a colored 
dot to help you" is probably the best approach.

For the latter, I'll verify the links for the next set of slides.
>   
> My own thoughts on these comments:
> - Two respondents call out the desire for an organizational chart. I think the EDU team should discuss options for how to best provide this info, as clearly people are looking for it.
> - The concern about harassment is an interesting one. Perhaps we should have the Ombudsteam review the slides and provide us with some guidance. This is an important topic.
>