Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Questions about I* bodies removing their own membership

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On the first suggestion, I'd be concerned about a body conspiring to remove
someone on the basis of something other than performance. Some productive,
creative people can be irritating.

On the second, I'd worry that the instinct for self-preservation might
overwhelm the desire to do the right thing and effectively make it
impossible to remove someone.

It's an interesting set of incentives.

Melinda

On Tue, Oct 29, 2019, 11:41 John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> wrote:

> Hi.  I've been thinking about the idea of the I* bodies being
> able to remove one of their own members and how to combine that
> with adequate safeguards.  Let me make a specific suggestion to
> see if it gets enough traction for me to draft some text that
> could be dropped into the "equity" I-D.
>
> Suppose we followed the example already set by the ombudsteam
> and allowed those bodies, perhaps even by a simply majority
> vote, to initiate a recall process, bypassing the petition
> process.  The rest of the recall process would run normally
> (modulo any changes we might make in the future).
>
> Would that be sufficient and mitigate at least most of the
> concerns?
>
> I'm a little fascinated by the possibility of applying Mike's
> suggestion to this, requiring each I* member voting "yes" to
> initiate the recall process to put down a significant deposit
> that would be refunded if the recall committee did not agree
> that the person should be removed.  Or, perhaps even more
> effectively, requiring each I* member who was going to vote
> "yes" to sign a letter of resignation, creating a vacancy
> immediately and taking effect as soon as a replacement could be
> seated if the recall committee did not remove the person in
> question.   "You want to fire an I* member, you put your
> position on the line if the recall committee disagrees" has a
> certain charm.  But I'm not yet persuaded that either would be a
> good idea.
>
> best,
>    john
>
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