Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Draft meeting minutes

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Tue, 29 October 2019 21:07 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Draft meeting minutes
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On 30-Oct-19 09:16, Michael StJohns wrote:
> On 10/29/2019 3:27 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>> I've been thinking for some days that perhaps a committee of two, say the
>> ISOC President and the current NomCom Chair, would be able to declare
>> that a received recall petition is frivolous and simply dismiss it. As long
>> as this was a public process, I think it would be reasonable.
> 
> I like the idea of a fast-fail, but both of these people are 
> problematic.  The Nomcom chair because they were probably on the Nomcom 
> that selected the target of the petition, and the ISOC president 
> because, under current rules, they would select the Recall committee chair.
> 
> How about the last three Nomcom chairs that didn't serve on a Nomcom 
> committee or with the petition target on one of the I* bodies or as a 
> co-worker?   2/3 vote to void the petition?

Sure, something like that. Just a pragmatic way of dealing with the
(probably unlikely) DOS scenario.

> The current recall process really needs overhauling.

Yes, but possibly out of scope for this list? Maybe gendispatch needs
to start with an issues list.

   Brian

> I once calculated 
> it could take 60-90 days from first announcement of the pending petition 
> to get to the point where a recall committee could make a decision, and 
> a good part of that time is doing all the things we currently do to 
> verify and select Nomcom volunteers and somewhat to select the chair.
> 
> How about 1) Use the last nomcom volunteer list and seed and select the 
> next 10 or so people (pick enough so that some can say no), 2) Have the 
> chair be a former Nomcom chair  who gets selected randomly as stand-by 
> Recall chair from the pool of past 10-15 chairs (minus the last 3 
> chairs)?  All mechanical and *fast* - give people a week to say yes or 
> no to be on the committee and you're ready to go.
> 
> Later, Mike
> 
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