Re: [Eligibility-discuss] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand-05.txt

[Bron Gondwana <[e-mail]>]

My opinion on section 4.1 is this:

1) we should not include remote participants for IETF106 and earlier.  They did not have an expectation of eligibility.  I hold this very weakly and would be easily persuaded to change my mind!
2) we should include remote participants for IETF110 (and any future IETFs if this document is renewed) regardless of whether there is a face-to-face component.
3) we MUST have some remote participation controls, most likely with a fee waiver program that requires a degree of assertion that you're not a sock puppet.  With this in place, remote attendance is a reasonable path.

I would change the wording of 4, path 1 to be:

   *  Path 1: The person has registered for and attended 3 out of the
      last 5 IETF meetings.  For IETF107 and later, online
      registration and attendance counts as attendance.  For the
      2021-2022 Nominating Committee, the meetings concerned will be
      IETF 106, 107, 108, 109, and 110.

Cheers,

Bron.

On Wed, Sep 9, 2020, at 13:56, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> This version implements review comments, including eliminating the previous
> Path 3 that actually served no purpose (so the old Path 4 is now Path 3).
> 
> There is one open question that we need to resolve, in section 4.1.
> 
>    Brian + Stephen
> 
> 
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> Subject: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand-05.txt
> Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2020 20:46:29 -0700
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> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> 
> 
>         Title           : Additional Criteria for Nominating Committee Eligibility
>         Authors         : Brian E. Carpenter
>                           Stephen Farrell
> Filename        : draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand-05.txt
> Pages           : 9
> Date            : 2020-09-08
> 
> Abstract:
>    This document defines a process experiment under RFC 3933 that
>    temporarily updates the criteria for qualifying volunteers to
>    participate in the IETF Nominating Committee.  It therefore also
>    updates the criteria for qualifying signatories to a community recall
>    petition.  The purpose is to make the criteria more flexible in view
>    of increasing remote participation in the IETF and a reduction in
>    face-to-face meetings.  The experiment is of fixed duration and will
>    apply to one, or at most two, Nominating Committee cycles.  This
>    document temporarily varies the rules in RFC 8713.
> 
> 
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