Re: [Emailcore] Two extra issues
Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com> Thu, 17 December 2020 23:13 UTC
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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 15:00:46 -0800
From: Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com>
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To: John Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
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Subject: Re: [Emailcore] Two extra issues
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> In article <9ABCA62E3E54C4356D09E1EE@PSB> you write: > >Hi. > > > >As mentioned in my note about ticket #2 sent about an hour ago, > >two additional issues came to my attention (or I was reminded > >about them) while looking at that issue and looking through the > >document. > > > >I've put them into the working version of what will become > >draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc5321bis-01 as: > > > > ---- > > > > G.12. Extension Keywords Starting in 'X-' > Kill them. > > G.13. Deprecating HELO > > discussion on the EMAILCORE list, should EHLO be explicitly bound to > > SMTP over TCP with the older transports allowed only with HELO? > I am pretty sure that all of the other transports described in RFC 821 > are dead, or close enough (X.25, where it says to run TCP over it.) I haven't seen an alternate transport in use in a long time. > Is anyone here aware of running SMTP over anything else, and if so > using HELO rather than EHLO? I'm not. There's still quite a few HELO's being sent by IOT stuff that supports email. And I can understand why - when every byte counts, code to fall back from EHLO to HELO isn't going to be written. And as luck would have it only yesterday I had a request for the option in our server to disable client use of EHLO. I guess something couldn't tolerate it. (Yes, I had to look it up.) Ned
- [Emailcore] Two extra issues John C Klensin
- Re: [Emailcore] Two extra issues John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Two extra issues Ned Freed
- Re: [Emailcore] Two extra issues John R Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Two extra issues Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [Emailcore] Two extra issues Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Emailcore] Two extra issues Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Emailcore] Two extra issues John C Klensin
- [Emailcore] RESOLVED: Ticket #43: G.13. Deprecatiā¦ Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Emailcore] RESOLVED: Ticket #43: G.13. Depreā¦ Alessandro Vesely