Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #8: Need a registry of header fields that are Ok to add after submission

"Martin J. Dürst" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp> Thu, 29 July 2021 04:12 UTC

Return-Path: <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>
X-Original-To: emailcore@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: emailcore@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 412803A0962 for <emailcore@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 28 Jul 2021 21:12:48 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.901
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=itaoyama.onmicrosoft.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W13HNpy0Goky for <emailcore@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 28 Jul 2021 21:12:43 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from JPN01-OS2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-eopbgr1410107.outbound.protection.outlook.com [40.107.141.107]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A066E3A095C for <emailcore@ietf.org>; Wed, 28 Jul 2021 21:12:43 -0700 (PDT)
ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; s=arcselector9901; d=microsoft.com; cv=none; b=NPF/SHgWYIROu68sD0MRuzQg4/uT1vLA4q0KCs1G9vQ1+S+VYtWoxhp1jv+OX3iv4Hvdcd0VXS8ztcakwOaYuaw7Wrp4duMcHO3r8IGeKe4+Y2h5inJh9MGWUBr1pV+2mjk5/tjJmHrr5xwYAnAV5ZrgLmWwty7STVgeKtLdXkQCvuxo7+XzGbzOanta9KqGYY7Wb1ZhViiByMWMKCgJ5rbKplsAW/xzslX7iS9cAPYWeC5nUeRKT93539u/okVw8rlGbDcjXRs6N8MhsY8QTYqd1rD5K5Lprp25FnbZatZ+frS47gS6Fcq6xyxBOLlxusLwBXoLZiaWI/E30zs7pA==
ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=microsoft.com; s=arcselector9901; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=LQhhnlUsN8M7Ylrm+s1IVSehcO3d/ah1mmVHSnLBZV8=; b=R+aoiiQGyWCF5C7V4/hLb1e45JXeFMQPC1nq5AvPG/y6rgfxgxfmnDO4wsZexf7/skFZ6benXYas7TfOulas4FAeaG/0cMRFiVhlF9lFC5nLhyx/zsnIa8aQJ65J3V89U2a5m8wgQxy/rFlodrnU1rGvaJcVVWkUXGrN1DwMRGqoRdYIG31Y7b8PcCeuj4t6QKq1GgVdt8/l8am8iHrMOVK8N+6xTHlbm9C0XJMWABG8AJ0ztGE9XqyHN8PE05FT2+ZyYOYv/u0SOwDMKtrfI54khutINiY+HXcSVnnY3HC4V6VnZTz2YsTF8mR8m/W9hxSyfc7xpe5VXtvLACrMQg==
ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.microsoft.com 1; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=it.aoyama.ac.jp; dmarc=pass action=none header.from=it.aoyama.ac.jp; dkim=pass header.d=it.aoyama.ac.jp; arc=none
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=itaoyama.onmicrosoft.com; s=selector2-itaoyama-onmicrosoft-com; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=LQhhnlUsN8M7Ylrm+s1IVSehcO3d/ah1mmVHSnLBZV8=; b=Bcp5rR4QdldJq3Gj6iLT88bX9QriEh7RXDN2m5ONhqQ+CCqDTjp0wL9nlw7q7D+62RXGnyLlj45lSCEQCWeWD0aP93Vgqe3x4o4YK1PYQyAz83O2+wgjTmJs7PPObsvxwCzqskH4PCu0C2qTKJxb2l01bV8KAkqEPuuCzS50p4g=
Authentication-Results: isode.com; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;isode.com; dmarc=none action=none header.from=it.aoyama.ac.jp;
Received: from TYAPR01MB5689.jpnprd01.prod.outlook.com (2603:1096:404:8053::7) by TYCPR01MB6961.jpnprd01.prod.outlook.com (2603:1096:400:b8::14) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.4352.28; Thu, 29 Jul 2021 04:12:40 +0000
Received: from TYAPR01MB5689.jpnprd01.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::11f6:52bc:8bf7:d82b]) by TYAPR01MB5689.jpnprd01.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::11f6:52bc:8bf7:d82b%6]) with mapi id 15.20.4352.032; Thu, 29 Jul 2021 04:12:40 +0000
To: John Levine <johnl@taugh.com>, emailcore@ietf.org
Cc: alexey.melnikov@isode.com
References: <20210729031352.DE5F725480DE@ary.qy>
From: "Martin J. Dürst" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>
Organization: Aoyama Gakuin University
Message-ID: <32ffe1ec-f123-f37e-37ba-797617dcc31c@it.aoyama.ac.jp>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 13:12:37 +0900
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.12.0
In-Reply-To: <20210729031352.DE5F725480DE@ary.qy>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format="flowed"
Content-Language: en-US
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-ClientProxiedBy: TY2PR02CA0014.apcprd02.prod.outlook.com (2603:1096:404:56::26) To TYAPR01MB5689.jpnprd01.prod.outlook.com (2603:1096:404:8053::7)
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-MS-Exchange-MessageSentRepresentingType: 1
Received: from [133.2.210.39] (133.2.210.39) by TY2PR02CA0014.apcprd02.prod.outlook.com (2603:1096:404:56::26) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.4373.17 via Frontend Transport; Thu, 29 Jul 2021 04:12:40 +0000
X-MS-PublicTrafficType: Email
X-MS-Office365-Filtering-Correlation-Id: f44080ae-435a-4cd5-ce27-08d952471b4b
X-MS-TrafficTypeDiagnostic: TYCPR01MB6961:
X-Microsoft-Antispam-PRVS: <TYCPR01MB69615BCCB35ABA846E9D26A6CAEB9@TYCPR01MB6961.jpnprd01.prod.outlook.com>
X-MS-Oob-TLC-OOBClassifiers: OLM:9508;
X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck: 1
X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-Relay: 0
X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0;
X-Microsoft-Antispam-Message-Info: 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
X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:255.255.255.255; CTRY:; LANG:en; SCL:1; SRV:; IPV:NLI; SFV:NSPM; H:TYAPR01MB5689.jpnprd01.prod.outlook.com; PTR:; CAT:NONE; SFS:(346002)(366004)(136003)(39840400004)(376002)(396003)(31686004)(786003)(8936002)(16576012)(66946007)(6486002)(6666004)(66556008)(316002)(36916002)(38100700002)(2616005)(52116002)(38350700002)(8676002)(86362001)(31696002)(83380400001)(66476007)(956004)(6706004)(53546011)(186003)(5660300002)(966005)(508600001)(2906002)(26005)(4326008)(4744005)(3940600001)(43740500002)(45980500001); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102;
X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-ChunkCount: 1
X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-0: 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
X-OriginatorOrg: it.aoyama.ac.jp
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: f44080ae-435a-4cd5-ce27-08d952471b4b
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: TYAPR01MB5689.jpnprd01.prod.outlook.com
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jul 2021 04:12:40.5287 (UTC)
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Hosted
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Id: e02030e7-4d45-463e-a968-0290e738c18e
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-MailboxType: HOSTED
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-UserPrincipalName: Yz7f97NToN4W0YQNCQdX7MabD5nu66+Z6YoNyazqTspi3shzsEt9vxELBx3jjdWcOfo6epSd9B3fnHxZY15zgg==
X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: TYCPR01MB6961
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/emailcore/jv32-zDqf0B5r5YLG6wVb1UZ3HU>
Subject: Re: [Emailcore] Ticket #8: Need a registry of header fields that are Ok to add after submission
X-BeenThere: emailcore@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: EMAILCORE proposed working group list <emailcore.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/emailcore>, <mailto:emailcore-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/emailcore/>
List-Post: <mailto:emailcore@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:emailcore-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emailcore>, <mailto:emailcore-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 04:12:48 -0000

On 2021-07-29 12:13, John Levine wrote:
> When I look at this registry I see a list of header fields and the RFC or
> other reference that defines each one:
> 
> https://www.iana.org/assignments/message-headers/message-headers.xhtml
> 
> How would this be different?
> 
> I can sort of see adding a column to the existing registry with a hint
> about where in the mail process it's typically added, but not a whole new registry.

Same here. Another variant would be to allow a fixed range of additions 
to the protocol column. I.e. not just "mail", but e.g. "mail (gateways)" 
or whatever we may decide on.

Regards,   Martin.

> R's,
> John
>