Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance

Rolf Winter <Rolf.Winter@neclab.eu> Mon, 27 February 2012 16:09 UTC

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From: Rolf Winter <Rolf.Winter@neclab.eu>
To: Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>, Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com>
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Hi,

I agree. I personally also think that importance can be removed. It is ill defined in the current document, if _really_ needed it seems like a more general concept and I wonder why it should be part of the MIB as opposed to something that is part of the management system. Regarding role, if it is to stay in the MIB (as opposed to the EnMS) then it also need a better definition and a good justification why it should be stored on the device itself.

Best,

Rolf


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: eman-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:eman-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> Ira McDonald
> Sent: Montag, 27. Februar 2012 14:29
> To: Benoit Claise; Ira McDonald
> Cc: eman mailing list
> Subject: Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance
> 
> Hi Benoit,
> 
> That quote equates "powered entity's role" with "importance".
> 
> This sounds largely useless and subjective.
> 
> There seems to be no interest in having standardized "role"
> values in the EMAN community (and I'm not sure it's a tractable problem,
> anyway).
> 
> How about dropping the "importance" terminology entirely and sticking
> to "role as an energy consumer"?
> 
> Cheers,
> - Ira
> 
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> 
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 6:17 AM, Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com>
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 	Dear all,
> 
> 	There is a discussion amongst the "EMAN requirements" authors
> right now about the notion of importance.
> 	We're trying to evaluate the requirements related to the
> "importance".
> 
> 	The current draft version <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-
> eman-requirements-05>  only mentions:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 	5.1.2.  Context information on powered entities
> 
> 	   The energy management standard must provide means for
> retrieving and
> 	   reporting context information on powered entities, for example,
> tags
> 	   associated with a powered entity that indicate the powered
> entity's
> 	   role, or importance.
> 
> 	So there are no justifications why the importance is required.
> 	The people who want this, please provide some more
> text/justifications
> 
> 	Some extra questions:
> 	- Is this importance specific to EMAN or is this generic also for
> non Energy Objects?
> 	- Importance is important related to ...?
> 
> 	Regards, Benoit (as a contributor for the EMAN-REQ)
> 
> 
> 
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