Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance
Rolf Winter <Rolf.Winter@neclab.eu> Mon, 27 February 2012 16:09 UTC
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From: Rolf Winter <Rolf.Winter@neclab.eu>
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Hi, I agree. I personally also think that importance can be removed. It is ill defined in the current document, if _really_ needed it seems like a more general concept and I wonder why it should be part of the MIB as opposed to something that is part of the management system. Regarding role, if it is to stay in the MIB (as opposed to the EnMS) then it also need a better definition and a good justification why it should be stored on the device itself. Best, Rolf NEC Europe Limited | Registered Office: NEC House, 1 Victoria Road, London W3 6BL | Registered in England 2832014 > -----Original Message----- > From: eman-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:eman-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Ira McDonald > Sent: Montag, 27. Februar 2012 14:29 > To: Benoit Claise; Ira McDonald > Cc: eman mailing list > Subject: Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance > > Hi Benoit, > > That quote equates "powered entity's role" with "importance". > > This sounds largely useless and subjective. > > There seems to be no interest in having standardized "role" > values in the EMAN community (and I'm not sure it's a tractable problem, > anyway). > > How about dropping the "importance" terminology entirely and sticking > to "role as an energy consumer"? > > Cheers, > - Ira > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation > Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - > IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair > - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & > Printer MIB Blue Roof Music/High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box > 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 > > > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 6:17 AM, Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> > wrote: > > > Dear all, > > There is a discussion amongst the "EMAN requirements" authors > right now about the notion of importance. > We're trying to evaluate the requirements related to the > "importance". > > The current draft version <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf- > eman-requirements-05> only mentions: > > > > > 5.1.2. Context information on powered entities > > The energy management standard must provide means for > retrieving and > reporting context information on powered entities, for example, > tags > associated with a powered entity that indicate the powered > entity's > role, or importance. > > So there are no justifications why the importance is required. > The people who want this, please provide some more > text/justifications > > Some extra questions: > - Is this importance specific to EMAN or is this generic also for > non Energy Objects? > - Importance is important related to ...? > > Regards, Benoit (as a contributor for the EMAN-REQ) > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > eman mailing list > eman@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eman > > >
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance Brad Schoening
- [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance Benoit Claise
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance Ira McDonald
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance Juergen Quittek
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance Rolf Winter
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance John Parello (jparello)
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance Ira McDonald
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance John Parello (jparello)
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance Juergen Quittek
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance John Parello (jparello)
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance Mouli Chandramouli (moulchan)
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance Rolf Winter
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance Mouli Chandramouli (moulchan)
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance Rolf Winter
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance Juergen Quittek
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance John Parello (jparello)
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance Rolf Winter
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: power up order Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: power up order Rolf Winter
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: power up order John Parello (jparello)
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: power up order Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: power up order Bruce Nordman
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: power up order Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance Juergen Quittek
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance Benoit Claise
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance Juergen Quittek
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance Brad Schoening
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance Benoit Claise
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance Juergen Quittek
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance Mouli Chandramouli (moulchan)
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance Benoit Claise
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance Mouli Chandramouli (moulchan)
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance Juergen Quittek
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance Juergen Quittek
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance John Parello (jparello)
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance David Prantl
- [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance McAndrew, Niall
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance Benoit Claise
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance Anthony Barrera
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance Juergen Quittek
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance McAndrew, Niall
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance Emmanuel Tychon
- Re: [eman] EMAN-REQ: the notion of importance Juergen Quittek