RE: [Enum] FW: I-D ACTION:draft-lewis-enum-teluri-e212-00.txt

"Richard Shockey" <richard@shockey.us> Thu, 22 February 2007 19:09 UTC

Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HKJJR-0002ut-Tj; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 14:09:05 -0500
Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HKJJR-0002uo-Gf for enum@ietf.org; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 14:09:05 -0500
Received: from sb7.songbird.com ([208.184.79.137]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HKJJP-0004VQ-Tm for enum@ietf.org; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 14:09:05 -0500
Received: from RSHOCKEYLTXP (neustargw.va.neustar.com [209.173.53.233]) by sb7.songbird.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l1MJ8jSw022475; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:08:55 -0800
From: Richard Shockey <richard@shockey.us>
To: "'LIND, STEVEN D, ATTLABS'" <sdlind@att.com>, "'Yu, James'" <james.yu@neustar.biz>, 'Stastny Richard' <Richard.Stastny@oefeg.at>
References: <8BCE29D0AF5D844D9F0ADC2C38F35A5201048A6B@stntexch16.cis.neustar.com> <C5ADFC6170F1244CAC760E4204FDC76E121D0E18@KCCLUST05EVS1.ugd.att.com>
Subject: RE: [Enum] FW: I-D ACTION:draft-lewis-enum-teluri-e212-00.txt
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 14:08:36 -0500
Message-ID: <026501c756b4$dc613a90$8d201f0a@cis.neustar.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028
Thread-Index: AcdVMNCbec+ZVODbS9COOeX+Q54U0AAAnNogAAEb2EAAGh+6IABAjHvwAAGmhnAAAuxmIA==
In-Reply-To: <C5ADFC6170F1244CAC760E4204FDC76E121D0E18@KCCLUST05EVS1.ugd.att.com>
X-SongbirdInformation: support@songbird.com for more information
X-Songbird: Clean
X-Songbird-From: richard@shockey.us
X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/)
X-Scan-Signature: b8f3559805f7873076212d6f63ee803e
Cc: 'IETF ENUM WG' <enum@ietf.org>
X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5
Precedence: list
Reply-To: richard@shockey.us
List-Id: Enum Discussion List <enum.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum>, <mailto:enum-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Post: <mailto:enum@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:enum-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum>, <mailto:enum-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org


> -----Original Message-----
> From: LIND, STEVEN D, ATTLABS [mailto:sdlind@att.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 12:48 PM
> To: Yu, James; Stastny Richard
> Cc: IETF ENUM WG
> Subject: RE: [Enum] FW: I-D ACTION:draft-lewis-enum-teluri-e212-00.txt
> 
> It is my understanding that MCC and MNC are used _between_ mobile
> service providers when subscribers are roaming to ensure that
> operational agreements exist that allow service to be extended to that
> subscriber in the visited network. Calls are completed based on the
> E.164 number dialed.
> 
> There is a lot of sensitivity over more public use of these data items.


Did anyone suggest these would be public? :-) 

This application is no different than ones using LNP data. 

> 
> Steve
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Steven D. Lind, AT&T            Tel: 973-236-6787
> 180 Park Avenue, Rm. A201       Fax: 360-343-2875
> Florham Park, NJ 07932          e-mail: sdlind@att.com
> --------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Yu, James [mailto:james.yu@neustar.biz]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 12:08 PM
> > To: Stastny Richard; LIND, STEVEN D, ATTLABS
> > Cc: IETF ENUM WG
> > Subject: RE: [Enum] FW: I-D ACTION:draft-lewis-enum-teluri-e212-00.txt
> >
> > Richard, Steve,
> >
> > This is to allow the IMSI or MCC+MNC information to be returned in a
> > specific NAPTR RR in the ENUM response.  This NAPTR RR can be the only
> > one returned in the ENUM response or can be returned with other NAPTR
> > RRs.   Mobile operators use MCC+MNC for settlement so the MCC+MNC
> > returned in "mcc" and "mnc" parameters or derived from "imsi" can be
> > used to identify the "terminating" mobile operator and included in the
> > CDR when needed.   Certainly the domain names in the URIs can also be
> > used to identify the operators but "MCC+MNC" is widely used.
> >
> > James
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stastny Richard [mailto:Richard.Stastny@oefeg.at]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 5:14 AM
> > To: LIND, STEVEN D, ATTLABS; IETF ENUM WG
> > Subject: RE: [Enum] FW: I-D ACTION:draft-lewis-enum-teluri-e212-00.txt
> >
> > Same for me
> >
> > I may understand adding the IMSI parameters to the tel: URI in
> > draft-lewis-enum-teluri-e212, especially using mcc and mnc as kind
> > of SPID
> >
> > What I do not understand is purpose of the enumservice "e212"
> > Can one explain, please?
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: LIND, STEVEN D, ATTLABS [mailto:sdlind@att.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 10:44 PM
> > > To: richard@shockey.us; IETF ENUM WG
> > > Subject: RE: [Enum] FW: I-D
> > ACTION:draft-lewis-enum-teluri-e212-00.txt
> > >
> > > I find it curious that this and the companion enumservice
> > I-D did not
> > > originate from a wireless service provider. It's not clear
> > to me that
> > > the I-Ds adequately explain the reason for including this
> > information
> > > for terminating calls. I'd like to understand more on how such
> > > information would be used.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------------
> > > Steven D. Lind, AT&T            Tel: 973-236-6787
> > > 180 Park Avenue, Rm. A201       Fax: 360-343-2875
> > > Florham Park, NJ 07932          e-mail: sdlind@att.com
> > > --------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Richard Shockey [mailto:richard@shockey.us]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 4:09 PM
> > > > To: 'IETF ENUM WG'
> > > > Subject: [Enum] FW: I-D ACTION:draft-lewis-enum-teluri-e212-00.txt
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org [mailto:Internet-Drafts@ietf.org]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 3:50 PM
> > > > > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
> > > > > Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-lewis-enum-teluri-e212-00.txt
> > > > >
> > > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line
> > Internet-Drafts
> > > > > directories.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 	Title		: E.212 Parameters for the "tel" URI
> > > > > 	Author(s)	: E. Lewis
> > > > > 	Filename	: draft-lewis-enum-teluri-e212-00.txt
> > > > > 	Pages		:
> > > > > 	Date		: 2007-2-20
> > > > >
> > > > > Parameters are defined in the "tel" Uniform Resource
> > > > Identifier (URI)
> > > > > to carry ITU E.212-related information.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
> > > > >
> > > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-lewis-enum-teluri-e2
> > > > 12-00.txt
> > > > >
> > > > > To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send
> > a message
> > to
> > > > > i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in
> > > > the body of
> > > > > the message.
> > > > > You can also visit
> > > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce
> > > > > to change your subscription settings.
> > > > >
> > > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with
> > the
> > > > > username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail
> > address. After
> > > > > logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then
> > > > > "get draft-lewis-enum-teluri-e212-00.txt".
> > > > >
> > > > > A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in
> > > > > http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html
> > > > > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt
> > > > >
> > > > > Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail.
> > > > >
> > > > > Send a message to:
> > > > > 	mailserv@ietf.org.
> > > > > In the body type:
> > > > > 	"FILE
> > /internet-drafts/draft-lewis-enum-teluri-e212-00.txt".
> > > > >
> > > > > NOTE:	The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in
> > > > > 	MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility.
> >  To use this
> > > > > 	feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime"
> > before the "FILE"
> > > > > 	command.  To decode the response(s), you will
> > need "munpack" or
> > > > > 	a MIME-compliant mail reader.  Different MIME-compliant
> > > > mail readers
> > > > > 	exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with
> > > > > 	"multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which
> > have been split
> > > > > 	up into multiple messages), so check your local
> > documentation on
> > > > > 	how to manipulate these messages.
> > > > >
> > > > > Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader
> > > > > implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII
> > version of the
> > > > > Internet-Draft.
> > > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > enum mailing list
> > > enum@ietf.org
> > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > enum mailing list
> > enum@ietf.org
> > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum
> >
> 
> _______________________________________________
> enum mailing list
> enum@ietf.org
> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum


_______________________________________________
enum mailing list
enum@ietf.org
https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum