RE: [Enum] FW: I-D ACTION:draft-lewis-enum-teluri-e212-00.txt

"LIND, STEVEN D, ATTLABS" <sdlind@att.com> Thu, 22 February 2007 17:49 UTC

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Subject: RE: [Enum] FW: I-D ACTION:draft-lewis-enum-teluri-e212-00.txt
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From: "LIND, STEVEN D, ATTLABS" <sdlind@att.com>
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It is my understanding that MCC and MNC are used _between_ mobile
service providers when subscribers are roaming to ensure that
operational agreements exist that allow service to be extended to that
subscriber in the visited network. Calls are completed based on the
E.164 number dialed.

There is a lot of sensitivity over more public use of these data items.

Steve

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Steven D. Lind, AT&T            Tel: 973-236-6787
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Florham Park, NJ 07932          e-mail: sdlind@att.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yu, James [mailto:james.yu@neustar.biz] 
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 12:08 PM
> To: Stastny Richard; LIND, STEVEN D, ATTLABS
> Cc: IETF ENUM WG
> Subject: RE: [Enum] FW: I-D ACTION:draft-lewis-enum-teluri-e212-00.txt
> 
> Richard, Steve,
> 
> This is to allow the IMSI or MCC+MNC information to be returned in a
> specific NAPTR RR in the ENUM response.  This NAPTR RR can be the only
> one returned in the ENUM response or can be returned with other NAPTR
> RRs.   Mobile operators use MCC+MNC for settlement so the MCC+MNC
> returned in "mcc" and "mnc" parameters or derived from "imsi" can be
> used to identify the "terminating" mobile operator and included in the
> CDR when needed.   Certainly the domain names in the URIs can also be
> used to identify the operators but "MCC+MNC" is widely used. 
> 
> James
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stastny Richard [mailto:Richard.Stastny@oefeg.at] 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 5:14 AM
> To: LIND, STEVEN D, ATTLABS; IETF ENUM WG
> Subject: RE: [Enum] FW: I-D ACTION:draft-lewis-enum-teluri-e212-00.txt
> 
> Same for me
> 
> I may understand adding the IMSI parameters to the tel: URI in
> draft-lewis-enum-teluri-e212, especially using mcc and mnc as kind
> of SPID
> 
> What I do not understand is purpose of the enumservice "e212"
> Can one explain, please?
> 
> Richard
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: LIND, STEVEN D, ATTLABS [mailto:sdlind@att.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 10:44 PM
> > To: richard@shockey.us; IETF ENUM WG
> > Subject: RE: [Enum] FW: I-D 
> ACTION:draft-lewis-enum-teluri-e212-00.txt
> > 
> > I find it curious that this and the companion enumservice 
> I-D did not
> > originate from a wireless service provider. It's not clear 
> to me that
> > the I-Ds adequately explain the reason for including this 
> information
> > for terminating calls. I'd like to understand more on how such
> > information would be used.
> > 
> > Steve
> > 
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> > Steven D. Lind, AT&T            Tel: 973-236-6787
> > 180 Park Avenue, Rm. A201       Fax: 360-343-2875
> > Florham Park, NJ 07932          e-mail: sdlind@att.com
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Richard Shockey [mailto:richard@shockey.us]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 4:09 PM
> > > To: 'IETF ENUM WG'
> > > Subject: [Enum] FW: I-D ACTION:draft-lewis-enum-teluri-e212-00.txt
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org [mailto:Internet-Drafts@ietf.org]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 3:50 PM
> > > > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
> > > > Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-lewis-enum-teluri-e212-00.txt
> > > >
> > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line 
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 	Title		: E.212 Parameters for the "tel" URI
> > > > 	Author(s)	: E. Lewis
> > > > 	Filename	: draft-lewis-enum-teluri-e212-00.txt
> > > > 	Pages		:
> > > > 	Date		: 2007-2-20
> > > >
> > > > Parameters are defined in the "tel" Uniform Resource
> > > Identifier (URI)
> > > > to carry ITU E.212-related information.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
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> > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-lewis-enum-teluri-e2
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