Re: [EToSat] What we are looking for from QUIC

"Morten V. Pedersen" <morten@steinwurf.com> Mon, 09 December 2019 11:20 UTC

Return-Path: <morten@steinwurf.com>
X-Original-To: etosat@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: etosat@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7088712009E for <etosat@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Dec 2019 03:20:01 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.598
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kCT60RpT4Rti for <etosat@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 9 Dec 2019 03:20:00 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mailout-taastrup.gigahost.dk (mailout-taastrup.gigahost.dk [46.183.139.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6DE0412004E for <etosat@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Dec 2019 03:19:59 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mailout.gigahost.dk (mailout.gigahost.dk [89.186.169.112]) by mailout-taastrup.gigahost.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id C75991890639 for <etosat@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Dec 2019 11:19:52 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from smtp.gigahost.dk (smtp.gigahost.dk [89.186.169.109]) by mailout.gigahost.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83CC5783206 for <etosat@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Dec 2019 11:19:54 +0000 (UTC)
Received: by smtp.gigahost.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 870002721A9C; Mon, 9 Dec 2019 11:19:52 +0000 (UTC)
X-Screener-Id: f8b5956341cafa01bc0fc2c7b7d4a245e1dff3de
Received: from [10.10.138.122] (unknown [77.243.63.160]) by smtp.gigahost.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D36512730389 for <etosat@ietf.org>; Mon, 9 Dec 2019 11:19:51 +0000 (UTC)
To: etosat@ietf.org
References: <BL0PR11MB3394354FD21C86492999FB8590420@BL0PR11MB3394.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
From: "Morten V. Pedersen" <morten@steinwurf.com>
Message-ID: <faff8b8a-157a-e8e0-2c8c-ea48c8582ca3@steinwurf.com>
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2019 12:19:56 +0100
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.2.1
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <BL0PR11MB3394354FD21C86492999FB8590420@BL0PR11MB3394.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format="flowed"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Content-Language: en-US
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/etosat/xmTK3nfFKq9wGmU_HmObkxUR1Kg>
Subject: Re: [EToSat] What we are looking for from QUIC
X-BeenThere: etosat@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: "The EToSat list is a non-WG mailing list used to discuss performance implications of running encrypted transports such as QUIC over satellite." <etosat.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/etosat>, <mailto:etosat-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/etosat/>
List-Post: <mailto:etosat@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:etosat-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/etosat>, <mailto:etosat-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2019 11:20:01 -0000

Hi John,
Could you elaborate on the point below:

--------------------------

On 12/3/19 7:43 PM, Border, John wrote:
> We are looking at FEC to help with the packet loss problem and large 
> windows to address the throughput problem.  Since enabling FEC and 
> very large windows (especially initial windows) will not be good 
> defaults for general use, we need some sort of learning capability to 
> know when they should be used.

--------------------------

Is it because of computational complexity or similar?

All the best,
Morten