Re: [gaia] draft-irtf-gaia-alternative-network-deployments. Mitar review, question #3. Typical scenarios

Arjuna Sathiaseelan <arjuna.sathiaseelan@cl.cam.ac.uk> Wed, 13 April 2016 12:24 UTC

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Hello Jim & Henning -

I think Henning has raised an interesting & thought provoking question -
how do we define rural?

I agree - if you see in the UK and other "developed" countries - many multi
billionaires live in rural areas -
look at weybridge in the UK:
http://www.hamptons.co.uk/forsaleoffice/weybridge/1599/

:)

should we consider from a "network access" perspective areas like Weybridge
as really rural -

should rural be classified from an affordability angle? but in urban areas
affordability is also an issue - so that leads me to

maybe - we should have new classification probably not by geography but
rather socio-economic status?

regards

On 13 April 2016 at 02:37, Jim Forster <jrforster@mac.com> wrote:

> (Perhaps covered already in the draft…)
>
> Sometimes, especially in developing countries, rural also loosely implies
> a poorer economic situation (average income per capita) than metro areas in
> the same country, and frequently reduced general infrastructure (roads,
> water systems, grid power) than the metro areas.  I think one of the
> drivers for migration to cities in developing counties is somewhat better
> infrastructure in cities than in the rural areas.
>
>
> On Apr 12, 2016, at 6:59 PM, Henning Schulzrinne <hgs@cs.columbia.edu>
> wrote:
>
> Defining "rural" is surprisingly difficult - the US government is rumored
> to have 50 definitions. From a networking perspective, it's very different
> whether you connect isolated rural dwellings, separated by miles, or
> villages, with clusters of a few hundred residences. (In the US, think
> Vermont small town vs. individual farms in Kansas or Oklahoma or homes
> along rural streets in West Virginia.)
>
> One distinction is the average (or median) distance between network end
> points.
>
>
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