Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-salgueiro-vcarddav-kind-device-06
Joe Marcus Clarke <jclarke@cisco.com> Fri, 30 November 2012 16:30 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-salgueiro-vcarddav-kind-device-06
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On 11/30/12 11:27 AM, Gonzalo Salgueiro wrote: > Vijay - > > Good to hear from you, my friend. Hope you are well. > > Thanks for the detailed review. As for your two nits: > > 1. I'm fine with the suggested edit and will update the next version (after IETF LC) with the suggested changes. ++ > > 2. FN is a well-known identification property for vCards and does expand to "Full Name". Even in RFC 6350 it doesn't appear to be expanded, so I'll likely continue that trend and simply add a reference section 6.2.1 of RFC 6350 after the usage of FN to help the uninitiated in vCards. Is that OK with you? FN is a property name, so I think we should leave it as-is. Since we already reference 6350, and we don't annotate each property, do we need another ref? I think those in the vCard domain will recognize FN. Thoughts? Joe > > Cheers, > > Gonzalo > > On Nov 30, 2012, at 9:50 AM, Vijay K. Gurbani wrote: > >> I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. For background on >> Gen-ART, please see the FAQ at >> <http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq>. >> >> Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments >> you may receive. >> >> Document: draft-salgueiro-vcarddav-kind-device-06 >> Reviewer: Vijay K. Gurbani >> Review Date: Nov-30-2012 >> IETF LC End Date: Dec-26-2012 >> IESG Telechat date: Unknown >> >> This document is ready as a Proposed Standard. >> >> Major: 0 >> Minor: 0 >> Nits: 2 >> >> Nits: >> >> 1/ S1: The value "thing" sort of creeps up on you in the second >> paragraph. Upon further reading, it becomes more apparent that >> during the WG discussions "thing" was a meta-value (or super- >> class) and that "application" and "device" appear to be sub- >> classes (or specific values) of "thing"s. >> >> Furthermore, rf6473 already defined "application" and that this >> particular draft is now defining "device". >> >> To better impart this information, I would suggest the following >> simple modification >> >> OLD: >> ...Working Group defined values of "individual", "org", "group", and >> "location" for the KIND property. Additionally, [RFC6473] has >> defined a value of "application" for the KIND property to represent >> software applications. >> >> During working group discussion of the document that became >> [RFC6473], consideration was given to defining a more general value >> of "thing", but it was decided to split "thing" into software >> applications and hardware devices and to define only the >> "application" value at that time.... >> >> NEW: >> ...Working Group defined values of "individual", "org", "group", and >> "location" for the KIND property. >> >> During working group discussion of the document that became >> [RFC6473], consideration was given to defining a more general value >> of "thing", but it was decided to split "thing" into software >> applications and hardware devices and to define only the >> "application" value at that time.... >> >> 2/ S2, top of page 4: "FN" probably expands to "Full Name". If it is >> an accepted practice to use "FN" in your domain, then you can leave >> it unexpanded. If not, then an expansion may help the general reader >> (like me) who may think what "FN" is. (The rest of the properties >> listed on page 4 and 5 appear to be self-explanatory). >> >> Thanks, >> >> - vijay >> -- >> Vijay K. Gurbani, Bell Laboratories, Alcatel-Lucent >> 1960 Lucent Lane, Rm. 9C-533, Naperville, Illinois 60563 (USA) >> Email: vkg@{bell-labs.com,acm.org} / vijay.gurbani@alcatel-lucent.com >> Web: http://ect.bell-labs.com/who/vkg/ >> > > -- Joe Marcus Clarke, CCIE #5384, | | SCJP, SCSA, SCNA, SCSECA, VCP ||||| ||||| Distinguished Services Engineer ..:|||||||||::|||||||||:.. Phone: +1 (919) 392-2867 c i s c o S y s t e m s Email: jclarke@cisco.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-salgueiro-v… Vijay K. Gurbani
- [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-salgueiro-vcard… Vijay K. Gurbani
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-salgueiro-v… Gonzalo Salgueiro
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-salgueiro-v… Joe Marcus Clarke
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-salgueiro-v… Gonzalo Salgueiro
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-salgueiro-v… Joe Marcus Clarke
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-salgueiro-v… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-salgueiro-v… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-salgueiro-v… Joe Marcus Clarke
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-salgueiro-v… Vijay K. Gurbani
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-salgueiro-v… Pete Resnick