Re: [Gen-art] [Detnet] Preliminary Qs for Genart review of draft-ietf-detnet-use-cases

[Xavier Vilajosana <[e-mail]>]

Hi,

having a use case and requirements document is very important, not only for
the standardization group but also for the industry and the
research/academia. The document is setting the base requirements for the
different verticals and creating a knowledge base that can be used in the
future by researcher and developer companies to improve or create new
technologies targeting a particular use case.

Not sure why there is discussion about the suitability of this document.
Can someone clarify?

regards
Xavi


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Missatge de Liubingyang (Bryan) <[e-mail]> del dia dt., 25 de
set. 2018 a les 16:16:

> Hi,
>
> I support that the use case document is very useful as "requirements" for
> the deterministic techniques.
> And may I ask why the WG decided not to have a requirement draft? Sorry if
> I missed some meetings or meeting minutes, but I really think a requirement
> document can be helpful for knowing the technique gaps and requirements
>
> Bingyang (Bryan)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detnet [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Grossman,
> Ethan A.
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 1:31 AM
> To: Pete Resnick <[e-mail]>;
> [e-mail]
> Cc: [e-mail]; [e-mail]; Deborah Brungard <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: [Detnet] Preliminary Qs for Genart review of
> draft-ietf-detnet-use-cases
>
> Hi Pete,
>
> My observation is that the DetNet WG made a decision to not have a
> "Requirements" draft, instead casting the Use Cases draft in that role, but
> in a more flexible way, i.e. the design is intended to achieve as much as
> can be achieved toward the "requirements" (the "least common denominator
> features" of those asked for in the collection of use cases) given a
> "reasonable" technology solution.
>
> Thus as the DetNet design progressed, based on that model, certain
> features that were originally asked for in the Use Cases were eventually
> dropped from the Use Cases (and thus from the expectations of DetNet) when
> it was established that these features were not feasible given the sort of
> solution that we could create within the scope of DetNet (for example "it
> should work on the open Internet" was dropped).
>
> I would claim that this role would justify publication, however that's
> just my $0.02.
>
> Best,
> Ethan (as editor of the Use Cases draft)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detnet <[e-mail]> On Behalf Of Pete Resnick
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 8:44 AM
> To: [e-mail]
> Cc: [e-mail]; [e-mail]; Deborah Brungard <[e-mail]>
> Subject: [Detnet] Preliminary Qs for Genart review of
> draft-ietf-detnet-use-cases
>
> Hi Lou,
>
> I've got a preliminary question about draft-ietf-detnet-use-cases that
> isn't answered in the intro to the document or in your shepherd writeup.
> I've Cced the WG just to make sure they're in the loop, and I've Cced the
> gen-art list and the responsible AD just in case Deborah or any of my
> Genart colleagues wish to say, "Pete, stop worrying your pretty little head
> and go finish your Genart review!" And I swear, I'm not asking this just to
> delay having to read 79 pages. (OK, maybe a little.)
>
> What's the motivation behind publishing this document? From the intro, it
> looks like it's purpose was to document the use cases so that the WG could
> do its work. Is there a reason that it needs to be published for posterity?
> Will people in the future need to reference this document? It would help me
> to review the document if I understood why it is being published instead of
> simply being a tool that the WG used and now no longer needs.
>
> I promise, in the meanwhile I'll continue to read the document and get the
> rest of my review finished, but I'd like to understand more about the
> purpose of the document.
>
> Thanks,
>
> pr
>
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