Re: [Gen-art] [Detnet] Preliminary Qs for Genart review of draft-ietf-detnet-use-cases

As a WG participant, I would like to add that the use cases are the major
input that the WG used to produce the Architecture and other documents, so
if people read them and don't find the text there sufficient to determine
"why" a particular decision was made, then reading the use cases would be
valuable for them. I support publication as an aid to transparency for
future readers of the DetNet documents. And I don't buy the argument that
drafts are good enough because they're now permanently stored even after
they expire. That may be case, but they can't be referenced or otherwise
identified.

Cheers,
Andy

On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Grossman, Ethan A. <eagros@dolby.com>
wrote:

> Hi Pete,
>
> My observation is that the DetNet WG made a decision to not have a
> "Requirements" draft, instead casting the Use Cases draft in that role, but
> in a more flexible way, i.e. the design is intended to achieve as much as
> can be achieved toward the "requirements" (the "least common denominator
> features" of those asked for in the collection of use cases) given a
> "reasonable" technology solution.
>
> Thus as the DetNet design progressed, based on that model, certain
> features that were originally asked for in the Use Cases were eventually
> dropped from the Use Cases (and thus from the expectations of DetNet) when
> it was established that these features were not feasible given the sort of
> solution that we could create within the scope of DetNet (for example "it
> should work on the open Internet" was dropped).
>
> I would claim that this role would justify publication, however that's
> just my $0.02.
>
> Best,
> Ethan (as editor of the Use Cases draft)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detnet <detnet-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Pete Resnick
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 8:44 AM
> To: draft-ietf-detnet-use-cases.shepherd@ietf.org
> Cc: gen-art@ietf.org; detnet@ietf.org; Deborah Brungard <db3546@att.com>
> Subject: [Detnet] Preliminary Qs for Genart review of
> draft-ietf-detnet-use-cases
>
> Hi Lou,
>
> I've got a preliminary question about draft-ietf-detnet-use-cases that
> isn't answered in the intro to the document or in your shepherd writeup.
> I've Cced the WG just to make sure they're in the loop, and I've Cced the
> gen-art list and the responsible AD just in case Deborah or any of my
> Genart colleagues wish to say, "Pete, stop worrying your pretty little head
> and go finish your Genart review!" And I swear, I'm not asking this just to
> delay having to read 79 pages. (OK, maybe a little.)
>
> What's the motivation behind publishing this document? From the intro, it
> looks like it's purpose was to document the use cases so that the WG could
> do its work. Is there a reason that it needs to be published for posterity?
> Will people in the future need to reference this document? It would help me
> to review the document if I understood why it is being published instead of
> simply being a tool that the WG used and now no longer needs.
>
> I promise, in the meanwhile I'll continue to read the document and get the
> rest of my review finished, but I'd like to understand more about the
> purpose of the document.
>
> Thanks,
>
> pr
>
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