Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART telechat review of draft-ietf-mediactrl-call-flows-13.txt

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Thu, 12 September 2013 19:56 UTC

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Cc: Lorenzo Miniero <lorenzo@meetecho.com>, General Area Review Team <gen-art@ietf.org>, draft-ietf-mediactrl-call-flows.all@tools.ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART telechat review of draft-ietf-mediactrl-call-flows-13.txt
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>> Would it
>> be ok to add the "finite state automaton" in brackets after the text
>> where "Mealy automaton" is first introduced?

That would be fine for me.

Regards
   Brian

On 12/09/2013 21:41, Jari Arkko wrote:
> Brian: Thank you for your review, and thank you Lorenzo for taking these comments into account. I have balloted No-Objection for this document.
> 
> jari
> 
> On Sep 9, 2013, at 6:08 PM, Lorenzo Miniero <lorenzo@meetecho.com> wrote:
> 
>> Brian,
>>
>> thanks for the review! We'll add those elements to the terminology
>> section.
>>
>> About the "Mealy automaton", rather than adding a reference to pages
>> like Wikipedia, I'd go for an inline indication to the reader. Would it
>> be ok to add the "finite state automaton" in brackets after the text
>> where "Mealy automaton" is first introduced?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lorenzo 
>>
>>
>> Il giorno Sun, 08 Sep 2013 13:05:55 +1200
>> Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>
>>> I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. For background on
>>> Gen-ART, please see the FAQ at
>>> http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq.
>>>
>>> Please wait for direction from your document shepherd or AD before
>>> posting a new version of the draft.
>>>
>>> Document: draft-ietf-mediactrl-call-flows-13.txt (Informational)
>>> Reviewer: Brian Carpenter
>>> Review Date: 2013-09-08
>>> IETF LC End Date: 2013-09-03
>>> IESG Telechat date: 2013-09-12
>>>
>>> Summary:  Ready
>>> --------
>>>
>>> Comment:
>>> --------
>>>
>>> This is a massive (175pp) and highly specialised document, for which
>>> a generalist review is pretty much useless. I have not checked the
>>> example flows, XML extracts, etc. IMHO, we have to trust the authors
>>> and the WG in a case like this.
>>>
>>> The document is clear and where I have sampled the text in the
>>> examples it is up to standard.
>>>
>>> This review is the same as for Last Call; my comments are just
>>> editorial suggestions.
>>>
>>> Editorial:
>>> ----------
>>>
>>> There are a few abbreviations (AS, MS, CFW) that could usefully be
>>> included in the Terminology section.
>>>
>>> Also, AS is widely used in the IETF to mean Autonomous System. Some
>>> readers might be confused at first, so this should be stated very
>>> clearly.
>>>
>>> "Mealy automaton" (section 4.1) needs a reference. Or it might be
>>> sufficient just to say "finite state automaton."
>>>
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