Re: [Gen-art] draft-baeuerle-netnews-cancel-lock-06 and RFCs 5536 & 5322

Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> Wed, 20 September 2017 15:22 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Gen-art] draft-baeuerle-netnews-cancel-lock-06 and RFCs 5536 & 5322
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On 9/20/17 5:57 AM, Alexey Melnikov wrote:

>> Since there is an IANA registry, another possibility would be to not attempt to revise the syntax from 5322 at all.
> 
> On my memory most of new header fields are defined without extending "optional-field" production. So people are already doing what you propose.
> 
>> Instead, simply rely on the the extensibility already there via <optional-field> and register all the new header fields in the IANA registry. (Use ABNF to define the syntax of the individual new headers but not their linkage into the message.)
>>
>> Then use text to specify conditions about where they may appear in a message.
> 
> Right.

OK. Barring further comments to the contrary I will revise my review 
(and the erratum) to recommend this approach.

	Thanks,
	Paul