Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-baeuerle-netnews-cancel-lock-05
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Subject: Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-baeuerle-netnews-cancel-lock-05
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Hi Paul, >> Julien Élie has proposed a new syntax definition. > > I was copied on his mail proposing a change to RFC5536, and that is > tentative. *This* document would of course require a similar change. Or > else it could extend that change, via something like > > news-fields =/ cancel-lock / cancel-key > > But that can only be done if there is actually a draft that revises 5536 > that can then be referenced. Bottom line is that it seems there needs to > be some coordination of that fix with this draft. Is a draft really needed? In RFC 5536, I for instance read wording about taking into accounts errata: 2.3. MIME Conformance User agents MUST meet the definition of MIME conformance in [RFC2049] and MUST also support [RFC2231]. This level of MIME conformance provides support for internationalization and multimedia in message bodies [RFC2045], [RFC2046], and [RFC2231], and support for internationalization of header fields [RFC2047] and [RFC2231]. Note that [Errata] currently exist for [RFC2045], [RFC2046], [RFC2047] and [RFC2231]. [Errata] "RFC Editor Errata", <http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata.php>. Maybe *this* document could have similar wording, like "it extends news-fields defined in Section 3 of [RFC5536] amended with verified erratum xxx". Also note that, when referencing RFCs, the current RFC Editor's practice is to link to <http://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc5536> (that provides a link to the errata page). Last but not least, for *this* document, if extending the ABNF grammar of another RFC gives too much bargain, then why just *not* extend anything and just define <cancel-lock> and <cancel-key> as-is? Definition of Jabber-ID or DKIM-Signature header fields for instance do not extend anything from RFC 5322 (mail): https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7259 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6376 -- Julien ÉLIE « – Chef ! On vient ! – On se met en carré ? – Non ! En bosquet ! » (Astérix)
- [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-baeue… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-b… Michael Bäuerle
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-b… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-b… Julien ÉLIE
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-b… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-b… Michael Bäuerle
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-b… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-b… Michael Bäuerle
- Re: [Gen-art] draft-baeuerle-netnews-cancel-lock-… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Gen-art] draft-baeuerle-netnews-cancel-lock-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gen-art] draft-baeuerle-netnews-cancel-lock-… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Gen-art] draft-baeuerle-netnews-cancel-lock-… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Gen-art] draft-baeuerle-netnews-cancel-lock-… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Gen-art] draft-baeuerle-netnews-cancel-lock-… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Gen-art] draft-baeuerle-netnews-cancel-lock-… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Gen-art] draft-baeuerle-netnews-cancel-lock-… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Gen-art] draft-baeuerle-netnews-cancel-lock-… Pete Resnick
- Re: [Gen-art] draft-baeuerle-netnews-cancel-lock-… Julien ÉLIE
- Re: [Gen-art] draft-baeuerle-netnews-cancel-lock-… Julien ÉLIE
- Re: [Gen-art] draft-baeuerle-netnews-cancel-lock-… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Gen-art] draft-baeuerle-netnews-cancel-lock-… Julien ÉLIE
- Re: [Gen-art] draft-baeuerle-netnews-cancel-lock-… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Gen-art] draft-baeuerle-netnews-cancel-lock-… Paul Kyzivat