[Gendispatch] Final public warning (Was: Messages from the gendispatch list for the week ending Sun Apr 11 06:00:06 2021)

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From: Kirsty P <Kirsty.p@ncsc.gov.uk>
To: Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org>
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On 14 Apr 2021, at 18:27, Dan Harkins wrote:

>On 4/14/21 3:55 PM, Rob Sayre wrote:
>>
>> To me, it shows that the IETF list should not be given the deference
>> it is now (as suggested in other drafts).

>   To me it shows that you're probably not the right person to write a
> draft to cancel the IETF list.


Dan,

That comment is inappropriate, characterizing another participant
on the list. You've been warned about this sort of message repeatedly.

While the chairs are under no obligation to give you a public warning
(RFC 3934 only says "the WG chair should send at least one public
warning on the WG mailing list"), given the events of last October[1][2], we
are inclined to give you this one final public warning: Such
characterizations or other disruptive behaviour on the list will not be
tolerated and your posting privileges will be suspended if it happens
again.

Kirsty and Pete

[1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/gendispatch/fjyO2yW8ltVLD9jL2blUMGn94SQ
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