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Re: [Gendispatch] draft-kucherawy-bcp97bis

Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> Mon, 15 August 2022 19:30 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] draft-kucherawy-bcp97bis
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I think this work needs to be done somehow, even if it's mostly going to 
be a chore rather than something that people get excited about.   I 
don't have a problem with AD sponsorship of this draft, and spinning up 
a separate WG seems unnecessarily cumbersome.

Keith

On 8/15/22 04:25, Kirsty Paine wrote:
> Hi gendispatchers,
>
> I'm seeing weak support for continued AD-sponsorship of this draft. 
> Please raise any strong objections or endorsements for that summary 
> and path forward, ideally in the next fortnight.
>
> On dispatching process: if a topic generates lots of discussion, seems 
> controversial or raises strong multi-party disagreements on paths 
> forward, then we need agenda time to discuss more thoroughly. However, 
> if it doesn't (and so far, it seems it does not), I'm happy to pass 
> this through via mailing list consensus when stretched over a long 
> period (multiple weeks), as it provides ample opportunity for the 
> community to object or endorse.
>
> Therefore, please share your views in the next fortnight...
>
> Kirsty
>

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