Re: [hackathon] Open Source Software and network protocol standards

Thanks.  I was struggling to remember all the product participants and 
knew there was one from Japan...

I don't recall if you made it to any of the in-person interops, but you 
were part of the remote ones I ran out of my basement office. It was a 
challenge to coordinate everyone's testing time, with some of us doing 
the testing in the middle of local night to accommodate others.  I still 
have the world timezone map up on my wall down in that office that I 
used to figure out what time it was for each of you, and the chat server 
(I ran down there) logs I used for our progress reports.

Challenge was you were already at IPv6 and it made connecting to other 
testers limited.

On 3/22/22 02:12, Shoichi Sakane (ssakane) wrote:
> I would be happy if you all IPsec guys remembered the KAME IPv6/IPsec 
> implemetation and racoon for IKEv1/v2 which is ported on MacOS and Linux.
>
> Shoichi
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> *From:* hackathon <hackathon-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of RA 
> <ran.atkinson@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 22, 2022 5:44
> *To:* hackathon@ietf.org <hackathon@ietf.org>
> *Cc:* Stuart Cheshire <cheshire@apple.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [hackathon] Open Source Software and network protocol 
> standards
> NRL’s open-source IPv6+IPsec for 4.4 BSD UNIX was the basis for many 
> (most ?) 1st generation commercial IPsec implementations and also was 
> used in some early IPv6 implementations.  It was developed/tested both 
> on SPARC and x86.
>
> IPsec would have taken years longer without the NRL open-source 
> implementation, both to standardize and to ship in products.
>
> Ran
>
>
> > On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:01, Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Subject: Re: [hackathon] Open Source Software and network protocol 
> standards
> >
> >> My intuition is that in recent years Open Source Software has had a 
> significant impact on network protocol standards, both in the 
> availability of easily accessible open implementations contributing to 
> the success of network protocol standards, and, in contrast, the lack 
> of easily accessible open implementations contributing to less success 
> for those network protocol standards.
> >
> > For IKEv1 / IPsec there were a number of "bake off" [tm][r] events where
> > FreeSWAN was the main interop target for all commercial implementations
> > for a number of years in the late '90s.
> >
> > The software and protocol were evolving/implementing at the same time.
> >
> > Paul
> >
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