Re: [Hipsec] NAT traversal and the standards track work

Gonzalo Camarillo <Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com> Mon, 03 May 2010 09:48 UTC

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Folks,

it seems we have consensus on including the mobility and multihoming
extensions in the scope of our new to-be-chartered NAT traversal effort.

With respect to whether we want to go native or still use the STUN-based
connectivity checks, it would be good to have more discussions on the list.

Thanks,

Gonzalo


On 26/04/2010 1:06 PM, Tobias Heer wrote:
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> Am 26.04.2010 um 06:51 schrieb Henderson, Thomas R:
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: hipsec-bounces@ietf.org
>>> [mailto:hipsec-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Gonzalo Camarillo
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 5:45 AM
>>> To: HIP
>>> Subject: [Hipsec] NAT traversal and the standards track work
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> we need to decide what to do with NAT traversal when moving to the
>>> standards track. We have the following drafts:
>>>
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-hip-nat-traversal/
>>>
>>> The draft above will soon become an Experimental RFC.
>>>
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-keranen-hip-native-nat-
>>> traversal/
>>>
>>> The draft above proposes implementing HIP-based connectivity checks
>>> instead of STUN-based ones.
>>>
>>> http://www.watersprings.org/pub/id/draft-melen-hip-nat-mm-00.txt
>>>
>>> The draft above, which needs to be revised, describes the mobility and
>>> multihoming extensions for NAT traversal.
>>>
>>> I would like to hear people's views on what to do here.
>>>
>>
>> Gonzalo, I would like to see both topics (NAT traversal, and mobility management aspects of NAT traversal) on the revised charter, as the second phase of standards-track work, as we discussed in Anaheim.  I am neutral on the questions of which one of the two drafts to adopt (if a choice needs to be made now) and on whether the nat-mm draft should remain separate or should be combined into one NAT traversal draft.
>>
> I share Tom's opinion here. I would like to see both progress (provided there is enough manpower to support both). However, I think it might be useful to address mobility in the actual NAT documents since it poses special challenges that are special to NATs. 
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> Tobias
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>> - Tom
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