Re: [Hipsec] comments on draft-ietf-hip-rfc4423-bis-01

"Ahrenholz, Jeffrey M" <jeffrey.m.ahrenholz@boeing.com> Mon, 21 February 2011 15:48 UTC

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From: "Ahrenholz, Jeffrey M" <jeffrey.m.ahrenholz@boeing.com>
To: Miika Komu <mkomu@cs.hut.fi>, hip WG <hipsec@ietf.org>
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> > You would need a secure channel (hint, hint) to move the Security
> > Association, including all private key needed that are not
> technically
> > part of the SA.  But, yes, there are people looking into this for
> cloud
> > computing.
> 
> actually I would agree with Jeff here. I think the experiment report
> would be a better fit for such research work. I would include also
> reference to the earlier work:
> 
> http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.79.5588&rep=re
> p1&type=pdf

I just wanted to make sure that statement on HI mobility didn't appear out of thin air :)

-Jeff