Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specific-routing-00
Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr> Wed, 10 July 2013 13:14 UTC
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Subject: Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specific-routing-00
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> If we can achieve this in a sufficiently large set of topologies. Otherwise, > it's possible that it's better to explicitly not support this mode rather than > attempt to support it only if the topology works. I think we're speaking of two different things here. The condition on a consistent linearisation that I've given above does not depend on the topology: Bellman-Ford will converge to a loop-free configuration as long as there exists a consistent linearisation, whatever the topology. Now of course, a loop-free configuration is of little help if the network is partitioned. So the question you appear to be asking is how many specific routers do you need in order to converge to a configuration that actually gets your packets to the right place. That's a good question, and one to which we don't have a general answer yet. A partial answer is the one given in 4.1. -- Juliusz
- [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specific-r… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Dave Taht
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Baptiste Jonglez
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Tim Chown
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Erik Kline
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Simon Perreault
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Henning Rogge
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Henning Rogge
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Henning Rogge
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Henning Rogge
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Teco Boot
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Ray Hunter
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Henning Rogge
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Henning Rogge
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Teco Boot
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Henning Rogge
- Re: [homenet] draft-boutier-homenet-source-specif… Ray Hunter