Re: [http-state] IETF-wide Last Call for -httpstate-cookie-10 ?

Bjoern Hoehrmann <derhoermi@gmx.net> Fri, 27 August 2010 22:21 UTC

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Subject: Re: [http-state] IETF-wide Last Call for -httpstate-cookie-10 ?
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* Adam Barth wrote:
>According to <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/http-state/current/msg00834.html>,
>I seem to have asked you for a test case, which I don't have a record
>of you ever providing:

I did not. Knowing nothing about your test suite I could only have pro-
vided a Set-Cookie header with a date in 1969. You would spend more time
asking me to make one, wait for and then read through the response, then
verify the test case and incorporate it into your test suite, than just
making the test case yourself, so I didn't think you were being serious.

>In any case, the test suite isn't done yet and it's not a prerequisite
>for finishing this document.

The idea wasn't to add something to your test suite, but to change the
draft so it defines date processing in line with major implementations
(that being a goal of the specification) or note in the document why it
defines something that is unintuitive and contrary to running code, so
implementers may be persuaded to change their implementations.

I'm fine with asking the IETF as a whole to review the document even if
there are unresolved issues such as this, but then they should be noted
someplace so reviewers do not waste time reporting issues that are al-
ready known.
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