Re: New Version Notification for draft-nottingham-http2-encryption-02.txt

Jeff Pinner <jpinner@twitter.com> Sat, 21 December 2013 01:51 UTC

Return-Path: <ietf-http-wg-request@listhub.w3.org>
X-Original-To: ietfarch-httpbisa-archive-bis2Juki@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietfarch-httpbisa-archive-bis2Juki@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A10C1AE234 for <ietfarch-httpbisa-archive-bis2Juki@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 17:51:40 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -6.917
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.917 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.538, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9sm5_Ffeh_PR for <ietfarch-httpbisa-archive-bis2Juki@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 17:51:39 -0800 (PST)
Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.56]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF311AE22E for <httpbisa-archive-bis2Juki@lists.ietf.org>; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 17:51:38 -0800 (PST)
Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <ietf-http-wg-request@listhub.w3.org>) id 1VuBhE-0004Gh-Gt for ietf-http-wg-dist@listhub.w3.org; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 01:49:40 +0000
Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 01:49:40 +0000
Resent-Message-Id: <E1VuBhE-0004Gh-Gt@frink.w3.org>
Received: from lisa.w3.org ([128.30.52.41]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <jpinner@twitter.com>) id 1VuBgf-0004Fp-Uz for ietf-http-wg@listhub.w3.org; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 01:49:05 +0000
Received: from mail-ob0-f181.google.com ([209.85.214.181]) by lisa.w3.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from <jpinner@twitter.com>) id 1VuBge-0007HN-G4 for ietf-http-wg@w3.org; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 01:49:05 +0000
Received: by mail-ob0-f181.google.com with SMTP id uy5so3503958obc.40 for <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 17:48:38 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=twitter.com; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=i6K/bfMevj9zbFtLYah1eJ8RwHHuzUQAOusuAukzlAc=; b=CCSUXdF0gv452dC0tSUEZOfzvHvaTpcRw4zP+RhfbSTBzOWLdkJbE4lXJNZYJl7Wwm wA3IKlSM7uuLF/1CJGhPyE53tihzVL5ShWiHUhNODYsQewvWnUp4TvRcEJZO6D6uFmsb ahl4Z+Pndx5qjdTDykUtPhZq/M/kaMpehZVxA=
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=i6K/bfMevj9zbFtLYah1eJ8RwHHuzUQAOusuAukzlAc=; b=hHeQa/6CsyujFQDt3wzkCAryyNUe13zQdn+wB1M2eLOf1xGunqqi8VzkzcBxxyVXXH Bw6224fmt97NgLaM7lOP2sQLGxbaOT0NWK6EQF4/ZAvWrjzGa2t8OuIA0e77BzAMDSJd IQdjgTDRUF6+WTXiqfd2yx7dlxKyce8gtIEDeVQrWvR2GT1zpjD76F0fgiSnhffM49oe Jln9ItgBBViXK5gW6O5zHZl0Km15U9XkRmwoFJOZEHcm0+E93oK6BRaSDlS9YYTRe5yY tSQi48p8j4+JlvnoXdHMNuSPS7PisZjeYZ++DExgCjzVvdj4XPq9PQk43xwt5wY67297 bGZw==
X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmDTYz0xNkndMlKqg97EcWcuOrOS99GBW+9ZV92kjmy3dpF4ztsxFEKe/rYOUBzFLCjg6Q4
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Received: by 10.60.146.210 with SMTP id te18mr8976213oeb.20.1387590518367; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 17:48:38 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.182.23.68 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 17:48:38 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <CAP+FsNfbLxJ5nLHSg-NpxyA47y0uYGkowfcOSxkUwREizYFwEw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFewVt6j0yaRboARj=wpaVO2s9M6j7_za-GXLp9ZWqkFtSys8A@mail.gmail.com> <eme0c50675-de24-47c2-a612-28ffe926e3fd@bodybag> <CAA4WUYj6MCnqLL8-uK_V6WUQv+f1S_DEMio+wLB_DC9CY9xUgA@mail.gmail.com> <52B02095.2010508@cisco.com> <CAA4WUYiZWNtJupQ-6bXO3aNXz1B0qBKoTX9-z-XEjdzTptTLDQ@mail.gmail.com> <52B0A45E.2010901@cisco.com> <D14D3664-5C9B-4270-9CAC-176E7042A1DF@mnot.net> <52B15621.8060806@cisco.com> <EB1061CD-E2C5-4288-BD18-B692ED9EC389@apple.com> <CAP+FsNfbLxJ5nLHSg-NpxyA47y0uYGkowfcOSxkUwREizYFwEw@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 17:48:38 -0800
Message-ID: <CA+pLO_gn7=wvP08orNeqnxjMXDhFaG4hnhMEk5iMZB37XOOoeA@mail.gmail.com>
From: Jeff Pinner <jpinner@twitter.com>
To: Roberto Peon <grmocg@gmail.com>
Cc: Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com>, Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>, Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>, "ietf-http-wg@w3.org Group" <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="047d7b5d42f8f0fcae04ee019799"
Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.214.181; envelope-from=jpinner@twitter.com; helo=mail-ob0-f181.google.com
X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.9
X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: AWL=-3.100, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001
X-W3C-Scan-Sig: lisa.w3.org 1VuBge-0007HN-G4 0faaddbfcaeef965d96b0d69a861f6f7
X-Original-To: ietf-http-wg@w3.org
Subject: Re: New Version Notification for draft-nottingham-http2-encryption-02.txt
Archived-At: <http://www.w3.org/mid/CA+pLO_gn7=wvP08orNeqnxjMXDhFaG4hnhMEk5iMZB37XOOoeA@mail.gmail.com>
Resent-From: ietf-http-wg@w3.org
X-Mailing-List: <ietf-http-wg@w3.org> archive/latest/21689
X-Loop: ietf-http-wg@w3.org
Resent-Sender: ietf-http-wg-request@w3.org
Precedence: list
List-Id: <ietf-http-wg.w3.org>
List-Help: <http://www.w3.org/Mail/>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ietf-http-wg-request@w3.org?subject=unsubscribe>

>
> @Elliot
> My understanding of what Jeff Pinner has been saying is that the stuff
> we've been doing has been quite useful in practice (today) for Twitter.
>
> -=R
>

Just to insert some data on the "usefulness" of HTTP/2 for the non-browsers
use-case, at Twitter we have deployed SPDY on our iOS client, and when
connecting to our API, we have observed as much as a 30% decrease in
latency over HTTP/1.1. (See
https://blog.twitter.com/2013/cocoaspdy-spdy-for-ios-os-x)