Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-nottingham-http2-encryption-02.txt
Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> Tue, 17 December 2013 22:39 UTC
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From: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
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On 17 December 2013 11:22, Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> wrote: > Demonstrate that free certificates are generally available, I'll make my point again. Zero dollars (or your currency of choice) is not the same as zero friction. It's an important part, but as long as it requires anything other than zero effort, free is still insufficient to move the needle in any meaningful way. As long as I can 'apt-get install httpd' and whatever else I need to do to get unsecured HTTP going, the effort required to get a secured certificate had best be as close to zero in addition to that as possible. Yes, there are other concerns, like performance, but I haven't found arguments around those particularly compelling from an end-user perspective.
- Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-nottingha… Mark Nottingham
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-nottingham… Paul Hoffman
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-nottingham… Mark Nottingham
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… Martin Thomson
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-nottingham… Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… Patrick McManus
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-nottingham… Paul Hoffman
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… William Chan (陈智昌)
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… Poul-Henning Kamp
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… William Chan (陈智昌)
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… Adrien de Croy
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… William Chan (陈智昌)
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… Adrien de Croy
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… Poul-Henning Kamp
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… Eliot Lear
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… William Chan (陈智昌)
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… Adrien de Croy
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… William Chan (陈智昌)
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-nottingham… Mark Nottingham
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-nottingham… Martin Thomson
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… Paul Hoffman
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… William Chan (陈智昌)
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-nottingham… Roberto Peon
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… Paul Hoffman
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… Tim Bray
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… Brian Smith
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… Poul-Henning Kamp
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-nottingham… Brian Smith
- RE: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… Christian Huitema
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… Yoav Nir
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… Adrien de Croy
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… Adrien de Croy
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… William Chan (陈智昌)
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… Adrien de Croy
- RE: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… Christian Huitema
- RE: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… Christian Huitema
- RE: New Version Notification for draft-nottingham… Yoav Nir
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-nottingham… Martin Thomson
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-nottingham… Stephen Farrell
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-nottingham… Martin Thomson
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… Eliot Lear
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… William Chan (陈智昌)
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… Eliot Lear
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… Martin Thomson
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-nottingham… Mark Nottingham
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-nottingham… Eliot Lear
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-nottingham… Matthew Kerwin
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-nottingham… Michael Sweet
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-notti… Roberto Peon
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-nottingham… Roberto Peon
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-nottingham… Jeff Pinner
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-nottingham… Eliot Lear