Re: JFV and Common Structure specifications

Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Wed, 23 November 2016 18:47 UTC

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From: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
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On 2016-11-23 19:39, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> --------
> In message <44dafe6e-3049-287d-34c8-994bdf27c02c@gmx.de>de>, Julian Reschke writes:
>
>> That said, we need to keep in mind that at least one of the arguments
>> brought up against JSON applies to this proposal as well -- if we
>> consider the underlying data model to be a dictionary, we'll have to
>> figure out what to do when that parameter occurs multiple times.
>
> Yes, we do, but only for each individual header which uses CS.
>
> In difference from JSON, there is nothing in CS which cares either way.

How does this work with the hope of using common parsers? Do they need 
to be configurable with respect to that?

Best regards, Julian