Re: [hybi] Web sockets and existing HTTP stacks

Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org> Mon, 01 February 2010 01:20 UTC

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L.Wood@surrey.ac.uk wrote:
> We already have BEEP for framing over TCP and to avoid
> head-of-line blocking. What would be wrong with that, apart
> from the fact that BEEP is already dead?

There are a few technical issues with BEEP, discussed several months
ago on the hybi list (consulte the archives).  It's usable but
over-complex in some respects and sub-optimal in others.  Nonetheless
there are some good things to learn from BEEP.

Is BEEP really dead? It had quite a long claimed list of users when I
looked last year.

Note that issues like multi-destination head-of-line blocking are not
addressed by WebSocket.  The current design expects individual
applications layered over WebSocket to deal with those issues using
their own application-specific protocol, where relevant.

-- Jamie