Re: [hybi] how do we move forward on agreeing on framing?
Patrick McManus <mcmanus@ducksong.com> Fri, 20 August 2010 14:27 UTC
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On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 21:19 +0200, Francis Brosnan Blázquez wrote: > As you > know, good protocol design is based on function delegation: each layer > makes a particular defined function. > I don't agree with such a broad brushed statement like that at all. Layers are a convenient way to think about things, but truly layered implementations are almost always inferior. See varghese's _network algorithmics_ for an amazing treatment of the topic. (http://www.amazon.com/Network-Algorithmics-Interdisciplinary-Designing-Networking/dp/0120884771/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1282314428&sr=8-1 ) Protocol designers might use layers as a useful way to articulate the protocol, but it is incumbent on us to consider all the various requirements of different implementation scenarios. That often means layering violations in practice. And that's ok.
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