Re: [i2rs] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model-04.txt

["Acee Lindem (acee)" <[e-mail]>]

Sue,

From: i2rs <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> on behalf of Susan Hares <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
Date: Monday, November 23, 2015 at 5:45 PM
To: "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
Subject: [i2rs] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model-04.txt

Resending to I2RS WG.

From: Susan Hares [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 5:33 PM
To: 'Jeff Tantsura'; 'Acee Lindem (acee)'; 'Mach Chen'; '[e-mail]<mailto:'[e-mail]>'
Cc: 'Jeffrey Haas'; 'Alia Atlas'; 'Benoit Claise (bclaise)'
Subject: RE: [i2rs] I-D Action: draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model-04.txt


Jeff and Acee:



Your suggested change goes against the WG adopted RIB Information draft that has been discussed for over 2 years.  The informational draft has been through WG LC and you did not make any suggestions or comments during the WG LC.  Any change of this matter is not simply something you indicate to the authors, but needs to be discussed on the WG as a direction change for the RIB IM/DM models.

Independent of the I2RS efforts, milestones, and processes, I think we need to address whether provisioning all these tunnels via RIB installation is  appropriate and, additionally, consistent with other WG YANG models. In many cases, it would seem there are tunnel attributes other than the encaps that need to be provisioned. At a minimum, I think you’d need to either reference an RFC describing soft tunnel provisioning or describe the specifics of this provisioning.




Prior to moving this change through WG adoption cycle, the routing architectural team needs to have: a) concrete proposal for the ephemeral state that covers I2RS RIB and https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netmod-routing-cfg/  and  b) I requested this input of Acee Lindem as a representative of the routing architecture team.

The  identification of this problem with tunnel provisioning is a direct outcome of this effort.






I will be glad to work with you on a concrete proposal that you can send to the email list and present at the I2RS interim meeting on 12/16/2015 (10-11:30am ET).

I will continue to work on ietf-routing alignment but don’t have the bandwidth for the above.

Acee







 Sue Hares



-----Original Message-----
From: i2rs [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Jeff Tantsura
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 4:27 PM
To: Acee Lindem (acee); Mach Chen; [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [i2rs] I-D Action: draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model-04.txt



Hi Mach,



I agree with Acee’s comments and would encourage you to use generic/existing tunnel model(s), please see comments provided during RTGWG meeting in Yokohama.

There are already too many, we need to rationalize this work.



This is what has been discussed in Yokohama, Robin presented



-- draft-li-rtgwg-utunnel-yang

   -- draft-li-rtgwg-tunnel-policy-yang

   -- draft-wwz-netmod-yang-tunnel-cfg

   -- draft-zheng-intarea-gre-yang

   -- draft-liu-intarea-gre-tunnel-yang

   -- draft-liu-intarea-ipipv4-tunnel-yang



Cheers,

Jeff













On 11/23/15, 11:56, "i2rs on behalf of Acee Lindem (acee)" <[e-mail] on behalf of [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail][e-mail]>> wrote:



>Hi Mach,

>

>I’m looking at draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model-04.txt and it still

>includes all the tunnel encaps. I know you received several comments

>that those should be in the tunnel model(s) and this I2RS RIB model

>should merely reference an imported tunnel abstraction. How are you

>going to address this? It seemed that the consensus (and an opinion

>that I share) was that this model should not attempt to generically

>created tunnels via RIB/FIB entries.

>Thanks,

>Acee

>

>On 11/23/15, 2:23 AM, "i2rs on behalf of Mach Chen"

><[e-mail] on behalf of [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail][e-mail]>> wrote:

>

>>Hi,

>>

>>We just uploaded an update that addresses the comments received

>>(include online and offline) recently. Please review the draft and comment!

>>

>>Thanks,

>>Mach

>>

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>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts

>>>directories.

>>>  This draft is a work item of the Interface to the Routing System

>>>Working Group  of the IETF.

>>>

>>>         Title           : A YANG Data Model for Routing Information Base

>>> (RIB)

>>>         Authors         : Lixing Wang

>>>                           Hariharan Ananthakrishnan

>>>                           Mach(Guoyi) Chen

>>>                           Amit Dass

>>>                           Sriganesh Kini

>>>                           Nitin Bahadur

>>>        Filename        : draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model-04.txt

>>>        Pages           : 65

>>>        Date            : 2015-11-22

>>>

>>> Abstract:

>>>    This document defines a YANG data model for Routing Information Base

>>>    (RIB) that aligns with the I2RS RIB information model.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:

>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model/

>>>

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>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model-04

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