Re: [i2rs] 2 week WG Adoption call (2/2 to 2/16/2015) - draft-voit-i2rs-pub-sub-requirements-00

Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> Tue, 03 February 2015 17:41 UTC

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Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 18:38:37 +0100
From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
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Subject: Re: [i2rs] 2 week WG Adoption call (2/2 to 2/16/2015) - draft-voit-i2rs-pub-sub-requirements-00
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On Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 05:34:09PM +0000, Eric Voit (evoit) wrote:
> > From: i2rs on Behalf Of Juergen Schoenwaelder, February 03, 2015 3:03 AM
> > 
> > On Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 06:53:16PM -0500, Susan Hares wrote:
> > > This begins a 2 week WG Adoption call for:
> > > draft-voit-i2rs-pub-sub-requirements-00  (2/2 to 2/16/2015).  You can
> > > access the draft at:
> > >
> > > http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-voit-i2rs-pub-sub-requirements-00.txt
> > >
> > 
> > I like to point out that some statements in the draft are either unclear or wrong.
> 
> As a "00" draft, I do expect that there will be changes needed.  Your feedback is certainly appreciated. 
>  
> >    o  limited support for pushed notification of changes.  (Currently
> >       notifications are for configuration data only.  And even then,
> >       subscription mechanisms for such notifications are undefined.)
> 
> The sub-bullet was intended to refine the "existing YANG technology ecosystem" paragraph above it.   That said, the word "undefined" will be changed in the next draft. More below.
>  
> > RFC 5277 defines a <create-subscription> mechanism.  RFC 6470 defines
> > notifications that allow to track changes in a configuration datastore. So why is
> > the subscription mechanisms undefined?
> 
> Netconf Event Notifications RFC5277 is useful, and everything possible from it should be incorporated in the ultimate technology solution.  But RFC5277 does not follow the Pub/Sub paradigm. It predates YANG.  In addition, a goal of this document is to frame requirements so as not to preclude support for additional transports beyond Netconf.  
> 
> Netconf Base Notifications RFC6470 is applicable for configuration info only.   The I2RS requirements mean we need to track many other things such as routing changes.
>

I understand all that I think but I still think the text quoted above
is incorrect and this should be fixed. I am not looking for long
explanation, a simple "we will change that text to '...'" would be
more efficient.

/js

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