Re: [i2rs] format for information models

Edward Crabbe <edc@google.com> Thu, 24 January 2013 19:10 UTC

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From: Edward Crabbe <edc@google.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:09:04 -0800
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Subject: Re: [i2rs] format for information models
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I could not agree with your agreeing with me more.  ;)


On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Thomas Nadeau <tnadeau@juniper.net> wrote:

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>   From: Edward Crabbe <edc@google.com>
> Date: Thursday, January 24, 2013 1:28 PM
> To: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>, Alia
> Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com>, Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>, "
> i2rs@ietf.org" <i2rs@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: [i2rs] format for information models
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>   +1 here.  If the relationships are hierarchical / acyclic then YANG
> would be a good choice /but/  we also have draft-amante-irs-topology-use-cases-0
> on the table, and potentially some related documents incoming;  if these
> efforts move forward (ie: modelling inter layer relationships and the
> physical plant) we may want to look at other alternatives.
>
>  I think this is an interesting discussion to have; it's a bit premature
> to settle on a solution given the current uncertainty in the use case set,
> *but* it's almost never too early to start experimenting.
>
>
>  That is my (implied) point for supporting the Yang approach.
> Specifically, to me it is about picking an approach (that seems to have a
> lot of support) and just working with it until someone finds something
> better to use.   At this point we need to stop talking about which hammer
> to pick, and instead pick one and build something. Call it experimental or
> exploratory, but I would like us to start building some examples.  We can
> tear them down later, but its clear we won't get anywhere until we start
> somewhere.
>
>  --Tom
>
>
>    On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder <
> j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:13:44AM -0500, Alia Atlas wrote:
>> > Juergen,
>> >
>> > What would you recommend for an information model for i2rs?
>> >
>>
>>  Frankly, I do not know. I am still unsure what the scope/complexity of
>> i2rs really is. To find out, I guess people just have to pick
>> something and get started. YANG tree diagrams are fine to get a quick
>> overview of YANG data models, they likely won't be the right tool if
>> many of data model items with more complex interrelationships are
>> involved - then you need additional diagrams.
>>
>> /js
>>
>> --
>> Juergen Schoenwaelder           Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH
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