Re: [Iasa20] outside the US [was Answers]

[Andrew Sullivan <[e-mail]>]

Hi,

On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 01:35:08PM +0000, Michael Richardson wrote:
> 
> It's clear that we need to be able to issue tax receipts in the US.

Yes.

> It would be desireable to be able to create entities in other jurisdictions.

Well, which ones?  This is _always_ a problem for non-profits, and you
had better be a pretty big one if you want to do this on a real
international scale.  We are tiny.

Moreover, what problem are we trying to solve?  The IASA 2.0 work got
started because of concrete problems that people who had to deal with
them were complaining about.  The organizational home inside ISOC is
part of the problem for us, but in ways that we think we understand; I
do not recall anyone complaining of the ISOC tax jurisdiction as being
the relevant issue.  Moreover, I thought we'd ruled out the option of
a completely new entity unrelated to ISOC.  So we're going to be part
of ISOC's jurisdictional umbrella one way or the other, and I
understand the legal advice to be saying that, given that fact, it
would be complicated and expensive to try to do something outside the US.

> (I wonder if the UN has any mechanisms to facilitate the work of
> international organizations?  Just as along is the letter I. T. and U. do not
> occur in any permutation)

"International organization" has a specific meaning in that context,
and we are most assuredly not one.  I don't believe we are even
remotely prepared for that set of compromises, either.


On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 08:51:48AM +1300, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
 
> A plug for my former residence: Switzerland, and Geneva in particular, is
> very friendly to non-governmental organisations, with the emphasis on
> "non".

Yeah, like that well-known non-governmental organization that is based
there and has opinions about Internet standards.

> UN & ITU interactions, we will still have ISOC in Geneva. Better not
> throw that baby out with the bathwater.

I don't understand what ISOC's offices in Geneva have to do with
this.  We already determined that ISOC's having of offices there does
not affect the jurisiction, no?

Best regards,

A

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